Anybody sad about being TOLD they were the Dovahkiin?

Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:26 pm

One of my favorite things about Morrowind was that you started out as a nobody; the only important thing about you was that the Emperor had decided to ship you off to an island that was for all intents and purposes in the middle of nowhere. Throughout the course of the game, (Spoilers, but the game's what.... 9 years old now?) you were able to uncover that you were the Nerevarine. Nothing was given to you besides aid from the Blades, you had to uncover the secrets and work to become what only you could be. In Skyrim... you're born as the Dovahkiin. I understand that given the nature of Dovahkiin ('Dragon-BORN', not 'Guy-Who-Became-Dragon-Like) it's kinda hard to have it any way but this, and I do know that Bethesda has said that there will be an event in which your character comes to understand that you are the Dovahkiin- you won't know from the beginning.

I was just curious if there were any others who missed that aspect of Morrowind- starting off as a nobody and earning your way up- or if anyone else preferred the new system.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:59 am

The whole Dovahkiin thing is stupid and cheesy anyway. I don't know what they were thinking. What if the player doesn't want to be dragon born?

Even the song refers to Dovahkiin as a he, which is stupid considering many people (including myself) intend to play as a female.

I'm just going to try and ignore it completely. If the Greybeards call the name "DOVAHKIIN" into the wind, i'm not going to answer and will visit them when I choose to.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:49 am

I'm sure they won't outright tell you as soon as you walk out the door...knowing that we'll be Dovahkiin is the trade off for being well informed. If you don't want anything else spoiled then it's probably best to put in earplugs a good two months before release.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:46 am

- Oh, by the way, you are a bastard related to the ruling bloodline, have fun.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:41 am

I'm sad indeed! I think they've told WAY too much about the story so far. The story sounds great, truly, but please Bethesda, why did you have to tell us so much!? The story is what we're supposed to discover ourselves... in the game!
A basic thing is good to tell of course, but not as much as we've been told already...
At least that's what I think.

It was great finding out that in Morrowind. I'm sad I won't experience that again with Skrim.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:02 am

Doing the same plot twist twice would be lame and predictable, might as well tell us outright.

This is the same as with Divinity 2, being told that you'll be cursed to become a dragon yourself, even though you're a dragon slayer...
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:06 pm

I'm not sad at all. If I don't want to be dragonborn I wont do the MQ and RP that i'm not DB. What did you do if you didn't want to be Nerevarine in Morrowind?
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:32 am

:shrug: Don't really care, to be honest. It's their game, and their choice how to handle things. I don't buy into this whole "OMG that restricts my roleplay!!1!!" mentality that seems to crop up so often and all but demands Bethesda isn't allowed to make any decisions whatsoever about the game's story because that's some slight to some player somewhere who wants to do it differently. If that mentality were taken literally and held by most of the community, there'd be a firestorm about the game having a main quest at all because you know, how dare the people who created the series tell us what great disaster looms and that we'll be called on to solve it- "OMG, that restricts our roleplay and besides, they could have used the time wasted on writing those quests to animate in changing into our pajamas and getting under the covers, drinking potions and eating food, shaking hands..."
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:00 am

Well as long as you being Dovahkiin isn't obvious from the start then I'm happy. I've never liked being a super hero in video games, its just a terribly boring reason to save the world. I'd rather be chosen to save the world because of my marshal prowess or intelligence or influence, rather than simply being 'chosen'.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:28 am

The whole Dovahkiin thing is stupid and cheesy. I don't know what they were thinking. What if the player doesn't want to be dragon born?

Even the song refers to Dovahkiin as a he, which is stupid considering many people (including myself) intend to play as a female.

I'm just going to try and ignore it completely. If the Greybeards call the name "DOVAHKIIN" into the wind, i'm not going to answer and will visit them when I choose to.

Well, the Dhovakin idea is actually pretty good for a "Chosen One"-type, because it's established through birth, not merit. Just as a person can't choose their own parents, you can't choose who will (or will not) be Dhovakin. If you don't want to be the dragonborn, you can shirk your responsibilities and just do as you wish. Just be aware that dragons might ruin your (and everyone else's) day.

As far as the character's six... It's translated, so it's possible the term "Dhovakin" is automatically a Masculine word, even if the actual Dragonborn is female. (I person does not have a gender any more than he/she has a tense. Gender is strictly a grammatic term /rant)
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:34 pm

you find out because you are about to be executed and this guy saves you then you guys talk..from my understanding. its not like the game says pick your race best for dragonborne then you just start off
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:57 pm

:shrug: Don't really care, to be honest. It's their game, and their choice how to handle things. I don't buy into this whole "OMG that restricts my roleplay!!1!!" mentality that seems to crop up so often and all but demands Bethesda isn't allowed to make any decisions whatsoever about the game's story because that's some slight to some player somewhere who wants to do it differently. If that mentality were taken literally and held by most of the community, there'd be a firestorm about the game having a main quest at all because you know, how dare the people who created the series tell us what great disaster looms and that we'll be called on to solve it- "OMG, that restricts our roleplay and besides, they could have used the time wasted on writing those quests to animate in changing into our pajamas and getting under the covers, drinking potions and eating food, shaking hands..."

This, I agree 100% with this...
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:17 am

i was under the impression that you were only one of several dohvakim. i also dont want to be locked into an uber character right away. that way i figure in later games ill just let some other dohvakim handle the main quest while i download a mod that autocompletes it. :) unless of course they make a spectacular main quest that has different choices and plays out differently each time but im pretty sure it wont be like that. :sadvaultboy:
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:31 am

Yeah it's too bad they spoiled so much of the story.
Although nowadays I always expect spoilers. :shrug:
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:20 pm

Yeah it's too bad they spoiled so much of the story.
Although nowadays I always expect spoilers. :shrug:

Can you direct me to all of the spoilers please? I must have missed a lot.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:21 am

I'm not sad about it. I would have assumed it anyway, or people on this forum would have discussed possibilities. They're not going to release much more about the story, so not much has been spoiled. Plus, following a forum, and other places on the web releated to Skyrim, is often going to have a spoiler here or there.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:53 am

Can you direct me to all of the spoilers please? I must have missed a lot.


Here i'll sum it up for you.

1) Escape with the help of Esbern and embark on a series of quests, revealing that you are in fact Dragon Born (Caius Cosades 2.0)
2) Greybeards call you, further confirming you're dragon born.
3) Embark on more quests to stop Alduin from sundering the world.

As you can see it's a pretty elaborate story line and has A LOT of spoilers... /sarcasm.off

In all honesty, this is a summary at best of what we know so far unless the nay-sayers and negative nancies were clued in to some other revealing chunk of the plot line. I don't understand where people get off saying "wow spoiled too much" where what we know is probably going to be posted on the back of the game box. All we know is the beginning, middle, and the end, at no point do we know what occurs between these points in the story. I'm sure the majority of the people are concerned about there being to many parallels drawn between Morrowind and Skyrim (what we know so far is very similar to the Morrowind MQ) but why worry, Morrowind had a deep and interesting story line, so where is the cause for concern?
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:14 pm

Only the most obvious of spoilers have been shown (no really, who didn't know that you will be the dragonborn after the teaser...).
There are still many questions left unanswered. Who's Alduin? Why are the dragons back? What are these dragons anyway? Why are we the last of the dragonborn?

Also, spoilers doesn't always ruin the story. I remember ruining many games for myself by reading spoilers by accident (on of them was Shivering Isles), but it rather irked my interest as I mainly wanted to know how will it come to that. I knew the end, but not the path it took to get there.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:25 am

I'm not sad at all. If I don't want to be dragonborn I wont do the MQ and RP that i'm not DB. What did you do if you didn't want to be Nerevarine in Morrowind?

Sell that package for Caius Cosades for cheap at that general shop in Seyda Neen? :P

I would much, much prefer if we're to uncover the revelation little by little on our own terms, please.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:24 am

Well, the Dhovakin idea is actually pretty good for a "Chosen One"-type, because it's established through birth, not merit. Just as a person can't choose their own parents, you can't choose who will (or will not) be Dhovakin. If you don't want to be the dragonborn, you can shirk your responsibilities and just do as you wish. Just be aware that dragons might ruin your (and everyone else's) day.

As far as the character's six... It's translated, so it's possible the term "Dhovakin" is automatically a Masculine word, even if the actual Dragonborn is female. (I person does not have a gender any more than he/she has a tense. Gender is strictly a grammatic term /rant)


Woah for some reason this post totally made me think about the Lion King movie...

Main character = Simba
Title of Dovahkiin = Title of King
Skyrim = Pride Rock
Alduin = Scar
Dragons = Hyenas
People of Skyrim = Residents of Pride Rock
Graybeards = Nala
Outside factions = Timon and Pumba

The main character/Simba is born to be Dovahkiin/King but runs off ignoring the troubles of Skyrim/Pride Rock after outside factions/timon and pumba turn out to be more appealing. The Graybeards/Nala call for the Main Character/Simba to be Dovahkiin/King and so he goes off to defeat Alduin/Scar and his Dragon/Hyena lackeys driving them from Skyrim/Pride Rock saving the people of Skyrim/residents of Pride Rock.

Don′t ask me why this popped into my head, it just happened :S Oh and I was sad that the best prophet in the whole world as far as I know (Tiber Septim who has freaking gods and the elder scrolls on his side telling him the future) tells you that 'YOU' must go and 'Close shut the jaws of Oblivion' as if he truly knows that 'you' are the one to do it by fate. I hope nothing like that happens in Skyrim.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:48 am

I'm more disappointed about having Morrowind spoiled for me ever since I came to these forums :shrug: I'm still playing through it though. Anyways, considering you supposedly find out you're Dovahkiin very early in the game, I don't think it really matters all that much.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:57 am

Woah for some reason this post totally made me think about the Lion King movie...

Main character = Simba
Title of Dovahkiin = Title of King
Skyrim = Pride Rock
Alduin = Scar
Dragons = Hyenas
People of Skyrim = Residents of Pride Rock
Graybeards = Nala
Outside factions = Timon and Pumba

The main character/Simba is born to be Dovahkiin/King but runs off ignoring the troubles of Skyrim/Pride Rock after outside factions/timon and pumba turn out to be more appealing. The Graybeards/Nala call for the Main Character/Simba to be Dovahkiin/King and so he goes off to defeat Alduin/Scar and his Dragon/Hyena lackeys driving them from Skyrim/Pride Rock saving the people of Skyrim/residents of Pride Rock.

Don′t ask me why this popped into my head, it just happened :S Oh and I was sad that the best prophet in the whole world as far as I know (Tiber Septim who has freaking gods and the elder scrolls on his side telling him the future) tells you that 'YOU' must go and 'Close shut the jaws of Oblivion' as if he truly knows that 'you' are the one to do it by fate. I hope nothing like that happens in Skyrim.


I'd think the Greybeards would be more along the lines of Rafiki (sp?). But it is oddly similar it seems.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:29 pm

complaining about this would be like complaining that you were a vault dweller in fallout, nerevarine in morrowind, etc. Just deal with it. Not everyone wants to role play when they play the game (not necessarily speaking for myself) and they realize this. They have to sell this game to more than just one type of fan base. They have to give it some direction as to a story and plot and not everyone will create a back story. If you are the type that is that into role playing and your imagination is that strong then just pretend to not be dragon born. When it comes to your imagination it is as simple as what you allow yourself to believe.
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:05 am

Here i'll sum it up for you.

1) Escape with the help of Esbern and embark on a series of quests, revealing that you are in fact Dragon Born (Caius Cosades 2.0)
2) Greybeards call you, further confirming you're dragon born.
3) Embark on more quests to stop Alduin from sundering the world.

As you can see it's a pretty elaborate story line and has A LOT of spoilers... /sarcasm.off

In all honesty, this is a summary at best of what we know so far unless the nay-sayers and negative nancies were clued in to some other revealing chunk of the plot line. I don't understand where people get off saying "wow spoiled too much" where what we know is probably going to be posted on the back of the game box. All we know is the beginning, middle, and the end, at no point do we know what occurs between these points in the story. I'm sure the majority of the people are concerned about there being to many parallels drawn between Morrowind and Skyrim (what we know so far is very similar to the Morrowind MQ) but why worry, Morrowind had a deep and interesting story line, so where is the cause for concern?


I'm happy for you since it doesn't bother you, but personally I feel like I've been told too much.
It's all opinion. :shrug:
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Post » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:41 pm

Skyrim isn't a fantasy simulator. It has to tell a story too ya know.
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