After comparing Morrowind, Oblivion and now Skyrim maps i have to say i'm feeling a little concerned that it's a tad smaller as i really liked the huge maps in previous games. Anyone else feeling the same?

Nope

Yes actually.

But I KNOW that the game will be awesome either way

Still, a huge map would be nice

Nope. MOUNTAINS, flatten them and it's the same or bigger

They have said it's much more densely packed. Not just with caves/forts/etcetera but with random little things.

Quantity over size.

Not really, but of course bigger would be better

Morrowind was smaller than Oblivion by quite a bit. Skyrim is about the same size as Oblivion.


Without a any scale to determine the sizes, how are you determining which is larger anyway? Are you just guessing?

I don't understand where people are getting Skyrim is smaller from. Todd has said Skyrim based on land mass is roughly the size of Cyrodiil in Oblivion, now add the vertical area of the mountains, it will be bigger. Also note Todd said that Skyrim is the biggest game they have made.

I don't care how small the map is. As long as the actual landmass is huuuge

This again?

Morrowind was small, but felt big because of the way the game was designed. Oblivion was bigger, but didn't really seem so because of the way the game was designed. Skyrim will be roughly the same size as Oblivion, but will feel a lot bigger because of the way the game is being designed.

As much as I would've liked Bethesda to up the scale of Skyrim's gameworld by x2, there's no doubt whatsoever in my mind that it will feel bigger than both Morrowind and Oblivion.

Morrowind was smaller than Oblivion, but felt way bigger. So it all depends on the way the map has been filled. Cyrodil consisted of endless plains and boring roads, while Morrowind was all hand made, and had interesting landscapes with hills.
I don't worry, map size doesn't matter much, it's all about the way it is handled.

Wait, maybe he's talking about the cloth maps? Like the physical map?

Ahh just to clarify i'm basing this off map vs map i never actually brought into account flattening mountains and such thanks for clearing that up. :facepalm:

Based on map vs. map, without mountain flattening, Skyrim is stated as being about the same size as Oblivion.


How are you determining that it is smaller?

Concerned about being a "tad" smaller?

lol

No.

bigger dosent mean richer with content
+ OB had generated lanscapes

He never said that bigger had anything to do with content. He is commenting purely on the size.

The map may be bigger or smaller but that isn't important. What's important is to take the information they've given us and put it together.

1. Content to Space Ratio: More content in a smaller space. They mentioned that they were trying to jam things full of content. So, even if it were a smaller space, there would be more to do.

2. Map Perceptions: They opened up more of the map as playable space. Previously, there were many places that were on the map but could not be explored.

3. Content Expectations: If what they said was true and we get a better content to space ratio, then our expectations will be much higher for any subsequent expansions. This only works to our, the consumers, advantage.

With the mountains it's likely going to feel a lot bigger even if the land mass is still roughly the same size. Personally though I'm not bothered because the environments look much better designed and interesting to wander around in, which beats size in my opinion. Morrowind and Oblivion being a perfect example, sure Oblivion was bigger, but I found Morrowind way more fun to explore and travel around in.

Nay. Oblivion had a lot of landmass but not a lot to explore in that landmass. I prefer the latter.

I'd love it to be 10 times the size it is, but that's not going to happen. It's great the way it is. For me. Anyway.

^ This

Morrowind felt so big because your walk speed was so damned slow.

I see.
but its only slightly smaller, dosent really make that much of a difference

Not at all, Skyrim is similar in size to Oblivion but seems to be far more handcrafted plus will seem larger due to the mountain ranges.