O you silly people...

Fallout 3 had much better writing, and a few things they where weak on. Yes they can learn, and have from obsidian.

Nope, I think a nice break will be nice. I mean, I still have some DLC to buy/play and achievments to get. Also plan to undust my F3 GOTY and play it again. Then there's F1 and 2 to buy so I'd say no fallout for a long while is gonna be nice

-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37OWL7AzvHo&list=FLJ_eDXmn3ryEjmVgiqbjMJQ&index=5

Atleast we have skyrim to look forward too ;D

Fallout: NV will be one of the games i'll always go back to every so often so i'll be ok.

It's reassuring that it's not only FONV apologists with selective memories who reply

As great as FONV is (not counting the godawful DLCs) ,the sheer unique, vast experience of something like FO3 at the time of it's release, is unparralleled in many players experiences, commanding a level of respect if you will.
If you're jonesing for Fall Out, do yourself a favor and remind yourself what FO3 actually is.

Enjoy your stay



I did, New Vegas. I did....

So... people can't have opinions? I like New Vegas more than Fallout 3. Was the Fallout 3 experience more unique to me? Yes, it was the first game like that I played. I do think Obsidian did a lot of things better, though. Not everything. Bethesda had the better world and exploration, but that's not all there is to the game.

But, of course, if I don't agree with you then I'm just an "apologist," right?

I liked FO3 as well as FO:NV almost equally. Sure the story in FO:NV was more detailed and had more thought put in it but I liked FO3 for what it was and I easily put 400 game hours in FO3 compared to just 221 Hours in FO:NV.

As far as missing updates for FO:NV, I have to say I will some but there are always mods that can be downloaded to breathe new life into the games. I got a new mod for FO3 that removes that horrible tint inside and outside to go with the lighting mod. I will go back to it eventually when I grow tired of New Vegas.

I just hope the next FO game is what I would like to see. I would like to see a future fall out game to take place in a location that we already been at but take place pre holocaust. I dont know if its just me but I have thought what FO3 would have been like to wander DC before the bombs fell and the ending of the game was the bombs actually falling. Can see the communist like agenda of the US government and learn more and maybe meet some characters before they were turned into ghouls that you meet later on. I dont expect to see a game like this though but a person can always wish and dream.

This debate is silly. Just get Requiem for a Capital Wasteland and play both at once!

I would like to see New York, I would also like to see some major cities from Texas. Personally I think Houston would be a better location than Dallas considering you got history from ancient battle fields as well as having a warship local to the area. I would gladly buy a FO series that covered this, but from what I hear part of Texas was covered already and thus wont be covered again.

But I would love to see a major city where all the buildings have some way to access them. Maybe you use a satchell charge to blast a hole into the side of the building or to clear debris but you can explore all buildings including skyscraqers. Thats one thing I hated about FO3, all those buildings and 90% of them werent accessable. I mean sure have them blocked off but have a way to blast your way through and into the blocked areas. These invisable walls really kill the games for me. I want to explore and find prewar notes and terminals with back stories. That is the number one thing all my characters from FO3 and New Vegas do, they are all scavangers that seek out documents and prewar computer terminals.

Every gig ends guys. Wrap up the rifles and dig up the swords, Skyrim's coming in hot.

On second thought, leave the rifles. Battlefield 3 is coming too.

(Movie trailer voice) This november... gamers will be needing 60 hours a day...

I have RAGE, Skyrim, and Battlefield 3 to tide me over for a while. And then I have, Metro: Last Light. As a big PA buff this great for me.

I'm looking forward to Metro: Last Light and Battlefield 3. I was excited about Skyrim but after hearing the new info my interest is basically non existent at this point.

Have they even announced Metro: Last Light yet? Last I heard it was a rumor all based around a site being created that isnt public by the name of metro Last Light

I coudlnt say it better my self and I would love to see the next fallout on the new skrim engine I think it would look amazing and back to the main point of the topic i am sad its almost over but i feel as if i got my moneys worth out of it with just 6 charecters playing each of the out comes and the others to just have the ultimate charecter who has all items but there are other games comeing out that will fill my time (MW3,BF3,UC3) <---lol all ending in 3's apperntly and we still have GRA which will be fun to play through once more with those guns since they all are looking pretty amazing

Really? Where have you been since E3?
http://postapocalypticearth.blogspot.com/2011/07/metro-last-light-e3-gameplay-demo-part.html

Exactly. Make no mistake, when I said 'more buildings to explore, I ment that exactly. Ones we can explore, not just look at.

If I were a multi-millionaire, I would do a heavy dlc revision on F3, and it would all be making every single building accessible. It would blow minds. A girl can dream.

But revise New Vegas? (insert cricket chirps). It's just....nothing. It got a lot of things right. But where it went wrong is trying to convey Vegas. There's just nothing to it. Nothing. The development artwork in the book doesn't match it in any way. The vision far outstripped the engine. Add the visually bland desert setting, and it's just an experience I don't care to repeat again, at least for a long while. The dialogue is better than Fallout 3. It is not as fantastic as some players are making it out to be.

F3 had writing more than passable enough to keep me going. And unlike NV, the setting and visuals still leave me struck motionless with awe.

Opinions are a funny thing.

"FONV apologists"? You trollin', bro?
I loved FO3 despite its flaws, but I would also argue that New Vegas is superior in every conceivable way.

And the DLCs are glorious. Few video game stories have ever kept me as interested as Ulysses, the Sierra Madre, and the Second Battle of Hoover Dam.

No Fallout for a while? What sort of blasphemy is being spouted here!?

I'll miss it but honestly decent games take time to make and cranking them out constantly would only kill the franchise so I think the breaks a good thing plu there are about 6 new games I'm picking up Rage, Skyrim, Battlefield 3, Uncharted 3, Assassins creed revolations, and the MGS HD bundle and then there the early releases next year Mass Effect 3 and Metro sounds interesting so theres no shortage of new games for me. And I'll always be able to revisit new vegas anytime I want and I probably will around Christmas break since I get a month off.

I remember exactly the moment I became totally mystified by Fallout 3. I had just left the vault for the first time and I decided to explore the school (I really had no idea what I was doing) and I heard the Raiders in there trash talking and threatening me and I was like, "what the [censored]?" - just speechless cause I never experienced anything like that in a game before. Every one here knows what Im talking about. I had no idea it was gonna be that good when I bought it.. haha.. I knew I would like it but not like that.

Fallout 1 took place in a boring old wasteland.
Fallout 2 took place in a boring old wasteland.
Fallout 3 took place in a boring old wasteland.

Folks who have adopted the perspective that New Vegas was nothing but a boring old desert really need to stop and think about the wide variety of stuff they got to do in that "boring old desert." Even a desert can be a lively place - trust me on this one.

How does a F3 apologist or Bethesda Defense Forces sound in return?

F3 was good for me, the scenery, exploration... and that's about it.
I think the vision of the original Fallout makers needs more than endless dungeon grinding and post-apocalyptic tourism. That's why I prefer NV over F3.

But still would have liked Fallout 4 to be a joint effort. Like I said, Bethesda can handle the gameworld crafting and locations, while Obsidian does everything else.

It's an open world desert with nothing in it. In Fallout 3, it was chaos and all kinds of crazy [censored] goin on everywhere you went. The Mojave is just boring. Almost nothing ever happens.