Thinking that Ulysses was massing a large army big enough to Challenge the Legion and the NCR... then the bombs... yep... Nukes to "reset" everything. This tells me why Ulysses thought that the BoS was the only capable faction on "living" because, well they have already endured Nuclear war before High Majority of there Equipment and Caches of weapons are underground and wont be effected if chosen to Bomb both sides... but holy cow, Nuking both major factions would REALLY Reset Modern Civilization....

I'm kinda confused like... WTF just happened.

Where the hell did you get the "Ulysses was massing a large army" from?

in fact most of that sounds like assumptions after watching the trailer.

I agree with Kyle you sound like someone who hasn't actually played the game. That or you played it after being up for 20 hours and can't actually recall what happened.

I expected a different ending and I'm glad Bethesda made it unpredictable

I never had the impression that he was massing an army. I spoiled Lonesome Road for myself by having an understanding of Van Buren. I was suprised that I was right but I would have been really suprised if I didn't have a good idea of what was going to happen.

Also I played it till 3am and had to spend all day in Class. I can go check myself, but

You mean Obsidian.

When he kept on about "giants under the earth", I thought it'd be a squad of Liberty Prime like robots or maybe some new Giant Nightkin. Instead I guess he ment the nukes, which is a really silly description.

I haven't read any of this, as I'm still playing Lonesome Road - but this is in the wrong section anyway.

Exactly, why does everyone give Bethesda Softworks (the greedy publishing douches) credit for something they never even had a part of?

As the publishers and owners of the franchise, they had something to do with it. I doubt anything made it into New Vegas without their permission or some other sort of meddling.

Beth doesn't do anything beyond approving what Obsie does. Beth did nothing to contribute to the quality of Lonesome Road

*Spoiler*

If you don't want spoilers on Lonesome road, you'd best get off the page as it is on the spoiler forum.

Ulysses doesn't care about Vegas, in fact, if you do a Mr. House playthrough in LR, and I have, he states that Vegas is nothing more than a twisted city with "pre-war ghosts". But quoting Ulysses:
"Some say that war never changes. Men do, through the roads they walk". You can eventually convince Ulysses that "just as I brought the Divide to life, I can bring Vegas to life", and in my opinion is one of the few endings where you will actually come to terms with Ulysses. Well, kinda. He still sits at the entrance to the divide and QQ's for the rest of his life.

In my honest opinion, however, blowing the long 15 (essentially the backbone of the NCR), to hell will set back Vegas somewhat, you are correct in that manner, but its surviving citizens, who are lacking a real government, will flock to New Vegas. I think the destruction in the NCR will also encourage some in the east to start moving west.
I, honestly blew up both. We can now expand, unopposed. Mwahahahahaha! -> "The House Always Wins"

You know what. I think the guys found a way to reset the series. I was kind of worried about future fallout games not keeping in with the "scavenging, struggling for your next meal" feel of a post-apocolyptic wasteland. Vegas seems to basically be on it's feet and well onto becoming prosperous and modern.

But with the possibility of the independent anarchy ending and the NCR and Legion getting bombed that basically resets the franchise and makes everything a struggle again.

I really didnt like Ulysses. I found his ramblings to be of similar value of those made by No'bark Noonan.

It would've been awesome if Noonan was the main antagonist of the DLC.

still wondering who sent the package to begin with and if they knew what would happen once it was delivered........

-That would actually have been great. An Enclave supermind that pretended to be insane and in all reality kept tabs on you via ED-E and threw his voice. It would have been better than this anyway .

The package was from the Enclave, that's for sure. Since it's a few decades after the Oil Rig's destruction I'd guess the Enclave wanted to give the world one last "F--K YOU" and nuke everything with remaining US nuclear arsenal. It turned bad somehow, and the Divide got whacked. Ulysses then used what he knew about the package to summon the missiles we see in the DLC. Unfortunately I didn't bother to listen to Ulysses' ramblings so I don't know what exactly happened to the divide.
ED-E is somehow linked to the nukes, which further reinforces the idea of Enclave connections.

(President Richardson notes, in Fallout 2, that the Chinese first strike was so unexpected that USA could barely launch its birds in time. Thus there are possibly hundreds of warheads still scattered across the United States)

I like the way you think.

Err, guys, the Long 15 and Dry Wells are the parts we get to see, but Ulysses mentions that he wants to hit the 'heartlands' of the Legion or NCR.

Odds are pretty good that when you nuke NCR, you're hitting Shady Sand and other important cities, too. Nuking Legion probably hits Flagstaff, Tuscon and the like. Kind of silly for them to call it a second nuclear apocalypse if his missiles only hit two locations, and one doesn't even seem to have been all that important.

This.
Who sent it and what exactly was the package?

I'm confused by the op's grammar and lack of punctuation. Like, wtf did I just read?

Just saying it's kind of hard to follow.