They are dragons. No where is it stated (even being fictitious in nature) that they must have 4 legs. In fact, many descriptions of dragons form mythology are to the contrary. Also, Wyverns (again being mythological in nature) tended to be smaller than dragons and often were made up of different animals such as eagles, with only the head being that of a Dragons.

Again, this thread isn't about what your disappointed in. It's for people without disappointments. If you're not satisfied with everything you've heard, simply don't post in this thread. Not that hard. There's plenty of other threads to list your concerns. I can link you to them if you'd like?

I don't see why one would need to remove depth from one place to add it elsewhere when you already have a solid system that it works upon. It's like saying "I have this painting, but I want to make a sculpture, I'll have to throw out my painting so that I don't have too much evidence of creativity."

While playing if I'm disappointed with anything I'm sure there'll eventually be a mod for it.

The first Batman had awesome combat, never been much into the other 2. Well if it's true that it's been in development for 3 years then the excuse of "We didnt have time to implement it" shouldnt cut it huh?

unfortunately no, all videos since have shown the player, guards and other walking, weapon sheathed, with shield in hand.

I find that very hard to believe, I mean there simply has to be something out there that at least makes you raise an eye-brow. I am, for example, a bit sceptical over what pickpocket will actually end up being. I had a look at the perks for it and it does seem like a roll a dice system again, that notes how valuable an item is and how much it weights.

I was done with the first Batman in 15 hours. Whether the combat is good or not is irrelevant to me. Not worth $60.

And yes, time and budget will always be a valid reason for every dev. Three years to make a big open world and add new content. There would be people complaining Beth are "lazy" if all they did was upgrade current systems and never add a bunch of new stuff.

I didn't say they excluded each other. I said you were wrong to assume that it was left out because it was too much effort. It was clearly a design decision, because it would have been unbelievably easy for them to keep a system they'd already created in the game.

So your idea of content is quantity over quality. you would probally dig world of warcraft, it's game play is pretty much garbage now but it still take time to sift through it all. I personally prefer games that take a small amount of skill with good looking combat unlike oblivions "Whack a Mole" click as fast as you can BS

Let me help you with that anology. It's more like saying "Here's a bit of money. You and your team can make a game, but you have to have it ready in a certain time-frame. Oh, and we're not giving you any more money besides this." Game developers have to prioritize, otherwise there's a bunch of poorly developed features clogging up what could have been an enjoyable game.

I don't like WoW. Could never get into it. You're misunderstanding me, sorry. You should try Ninja Gaiden if you haven't already.

But some of these things they already HAVE the concepts fleshed out for, and would require limited work for implimentation, like item degradation.

See, this is where you're confusing design decisions with mistakes. It's not like they were going to put in item degradation and said, "You know what? Screw it. Let's go play MW2 instead." They deliberately chose to not have these features in the game.

My biggest disappointment is that the game will have to be played on Steam.

My second biggest disappointment (a minor one) is that you can't block while duel wielding.

Yeah, I understand it's for balancing purposes, but why don't they just put that feature in when the majority of the gamers are just going to download a mod that allows them too anyway?

I wonder why this Xarnac person feels like he can make a claim like that when he hasn't played through the game.

I wonder why people can claim they love everything about it when they haven't played through the game.

I don't agree with him on most things, but I also don't like how people on these forums tend to be ridiculed simply for not thinking everything BGS does is perfection.

Concerned fans =/= trolls, whiners, or nitpickers. (though there are some of them around)

I agree. I'm sad about some things, but not disappointed.
I'm very excited about most everything I've heard.
This game is going to be awesome, and I love BGS for making it.

My response to everyone who has a problem with the direction BGS is taking:

Make your own game, or deal with it.

Dont really know if i fit in this thread. I was disappointed when i first heard some stuff, but i couldnt care less about any of those things now. So yeah Skyrimso far looks like itll be my perfect game :tes:

Amen to that... :celebration:

The only disappointment is that it's not 11/11/11 today.

This. The forums are not here for you to circle-jerk your favorite Bethesda developer(s) -though I'm sure they like reading those kinds of comments from time to time- these forums exist so that they can get the pulse of the community that buys their games.

As much as some of you might want to demonize people who complain about the game, these people are only complaining because they care about the series. And, if you gave it a moments thought, you'd realize that Bethesda has much more use for "whiners" whining about their games (so they can fix what's brought to their attention if it needs to be fixed) than lemmings or yesmen saying "everything is fine always and forever! Will you marry me Todd?"


As far as my personal disappointment to not disappointment score, about a 0, where 100 is as excited and not disappointed as one can be, buying at 5AM on 11-11-11 and -100 is totally disappointed and not buying the game period, /eat a dike Bethesda. I'm excited that it's an ES and I'll probably buy it eventually, but all of the features that have been removed (and the appeasemant features that have been added as compensation) drop my excitement so much so that I'll not buy the game at launch and just wait till when the price drops next year.

The only thing I'm disappointed in, is that I don't have the game right now.

Nothing and no one are perfect. There will always be room for improvement. That being said, Skyrim has a done a great job pushing the elderscrolls series forward.

I've been waiting months to hear about one example of any game that's been changed pre-release based on forum feedback.

Edit: The term "feedback" is used loosely here, because in order to provide feedback, you need to have experienced something.