I find the legion's avoidance of modern technology ridiculous. The things that made the Roman armies successful was their discipline, tactics and advanced military technology. If they conquered someone with better technology they adopted it (e.g. Chain Mail from the Gauls). Caesar even states they eschew medical technology (apart from his auto-doc for favoured people). Roman armies had highly skilled battlefield surgeons. Relying on hoards of suicidal fanatics won't win any battles against an organised opposition with better firepower. The Legion just wouldn't be a credible threat to anyone, particularly the NCR.

I find the legion's avoidance of modern technology ridiculous. The things that made the Roman armies successful was their discipline, tactics and advanced military technology. If they conquered someone with better technology they adopted it (e.g. Chain Mail from the Gauls). Caesar even states they eschew medical technology (apart from his auto-doc for favoured people). Roman armies had highly skilled battlefield surgeons. Relying on hoards of suicidal fanatics won't win any battles against an organised opposition with better firepower. The Legion just wouldn't be a credible threat to anyone, particularly the NCR.

I find the legion's avoidance of modern technology ridiculous. The things that made the Roman armies successful was their discipline, tactics and advanced military technology. If they conquered someone with better technology they adopted it (e.g. Chain Mail from the Gauls). Caesar even states they eschew medical technology (apart from his auto-doc for favoured people). Roman armies had highly skilled battlefield surgeons. Relying on hoards of suicidal fanatics won't win any battles against an organised opposition with better firepower. The Legion just wouldn't be a credible threat to anyone, particularly the NCR.

The Spartans
In many cases identical to ancient Sparta, meaning they are a militaristic and agricultural faction. They also try not to waste anything (like their http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_soup. As a result their faction unique weapons do more damage, are slightly more accurate and are more durable but suffer from a lower firing rate and are more expensive. While you might think they're similar to the Legion they are very different, because

Weapons that are unique to their faction
Minihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWS, uses 5mm ammo, repairs with minigun. Possibly with a 20mm Phalanx as unusable static defense eyecandy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartarus or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixion, uses flamer fuel, repairs with flamer/incinerator
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastraphetes, uses MF Cells, repairs with Plasma Rifle like http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bowcaster
Herakles power fist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dory_(spear), repairs with thermic lance

Just to name a few weapons, IMO, they could use a normal rifle as well, but I haven't been able to find anything. Instead of the vertibird they use the http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lambda-class_T-4a_shuttle for transportation, but IMO it has to lose the tail, so it look more like an upsidedown V, maybe make it a crossover between the SW shuttle and http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Klingon_Bird-of-Prey.jpg, but IMO the latter one Should have the wings in a more downward angle.

Yeah, strongly agree.

I hope people make enough noise to let them know that it was such a bad idea to make the Legion the main antagonist so that they'll create a brand new main antagonist (with much higher tech of course!) in the forthcoming DLCs. Gotta pray and wait for it....

Not gonna happen, the Legion isnt even the antagonist of the game,not the NCR, not House,not Yes Man, not the Khans or the Master Remnants

AND not all of us believe that was a bad idea, the Legion was developed even before Fallout 3, in the canceled Fallout 3

Oh yes, thank you. You reminded me. It was "Benny" but he was shortlived. Or was there a higher power behind Benny to caused him to shoot the Courier and take the chip?

Anyway, I just hope we don't need to deal with the Legion anymore in the upcoming DLCs.

They are the main threat of the NCR, so, we cant expect less Legion at this point, there some things that they need to explain yet too, like the Burned Man

i personally like the Legion, so personally i expect more sidequest for them

But I can't stop myself from shooting these guys on sight as they are. :tongue:

Iam the only here who support the Legion? :bowdown:

And support a DLC purely based on them??? :bowdown: :bowdown:

And the Burned Man???? :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Iam the only here who support the Legion? :bowdown:

And support a DLC purely based on them??? :bowdown: :bowdown:

And the Burned Man???? :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Yes, the Legion is absolutely ridiculous, as the question is posed. Seriously, how many hours after the "Legion" left would it take for ANY subjugated "tribe", settlement, or other group of people in the wasteland as we know it to rise up against their tormentors? Hours is probably a bit generous, especially since even crossing the wrong road will get you attacked in some places...

If the question was posed: "Given 9 foot tall Grandmas with Tourrette's, killer lizards, rattlesnake coyotes, over-abundance of people with ambiguous (at best) mating preferences, and a "terminator" like mailman/woman who survived 2 bullets in the head, is the Legion ridiculous?" the answer would be:"No."

I have a feeling people would like it if that cliche terrible Mad Max heavy metal 1980s anarchist raider look people would love it. I honestly like CL in terms of design because its not expected, and yet their identity serves a purpose, and their identity is not 'just cause we said so'

Oh yes, thank you. You reminded me. It was "Benny" but he was shortlived. Or was there a higher power behind Benny to caused him to shoot the Courier and take the chip?

Anyway, I just hope we don't need to deal with the Legion anymore in the upcoming DLCs.

I have a feeling people would like it if that cliche terrible Mad Max heavy metal 1980s anarchist raider look people would love it. I honestly like CL in terms of design because its not expected, and yet their identity serves a purpose, and their identity is not 'just cause we said so'

Since Benny was cooling his heels at the Fort, I would not be surprised if it was Caesar that was behind Benny and his plots. His tendrils were all over the strip and New Vegas. Chaos and instability is key to Caesar achieving his aims.

This.

Some people see the Caesar Legion like slavers, but they are more than that, they are not Metzger slavers, they are not Eulogy slavers, they are the Cesar Legion.
They want to form a empire, not enslave every stupid tribal or wasteland wanderer, yes the crucified people, but in a Gray world, even evil has his standards.