Didn't mean any offense by the way... just trying to get some lulz.

It's all just a quest for the lulz man that's all life is

Being in prison about to be executed to start the game is less intrusive than standing on a dock or waking up in a camp. I don't even know what to say to something like that. /boggle :blink: People really will argue anything on the internet.

You should probably agree with it considering it is correct

Pretty sure Bowser is an anklyosaur, or more precisely, an Anklyosauric-Mushroomian. Dragon-turtle is an outdated and offensive slur.

Well, a couple of thoughts. I think it allows some imaginative prequel to be made up by the player. So I like that. You don't have the game designer shoving a predertermined start down your throat. I think it goes with the whole openess of the Beth games. With that said, to say this is the fourth time, is technically inaccurate. Arena you start in prison, DF you start in Privateers Hold, MW you start in Seyda Neen, unless you count the two seconds you spend on the boat with Jiub to be prison and then Oblivion you're back in prison. So, from my perspective, it's been two out of four. Also, we don't know the entire beginning, but I have yet to hear that you start in prison. I thought you started where you are being lead to your execution. Don't want to spoil it from there, but then events unfold. So, again, just from my perspective, that wouldn't amount to starting in prison.

I think the openess of the beginning allows you to define who you are and what you did to get landed here. My two boys have actually already come up with back stories for their characters, as to why they find themselves in the predicament they do. My youngest came up with this background. The Dark Brotherhood was contracted to have his character assassinated, but in a public, humiliating way. This lead to the DB killing an innocent guard and then placing the body and weapon in his home. The guards were alerted and voila, here he is. Now he will use that back drop to perhaps infiltrate the DB to seek his revenge. I think it allows for creativity and imagination, which is the purpose of these games...right? So anything that feeds that, is cool by me.

In case you want to turn this into a "let's discuss logical errors in Oblivion" thread, be warned - this one is one of the lesser of them. We can be here all month just listing them all, really.

It also isn't an argument for or against a prison start - it's an argument against shoddy Oblivion-level writing.

Start a new tradition with thematic importance. There's nothing wrong with that, either.


Edit: Skyrim's politically unstable. Todd's said we're caught crossing the boarder. We're going to be executed. Why isn't difficult to figure out. Anyone can be the victim of a lynching.

I don't find it lame only because I can make up my back story. I don't want to be put into a game were I am destined to be the king of these people or something

its tradition.... get over it Tod even said so

I see it as the best way to start over or start a new life.

Its been OK in the past, so why change it?

i can start in a [censored]in plane soaring over the sky to be parachuted in, then a random worm hole opens up and teleports me to an alien planets city that then launches me on a rocket out into space into a a black hole that atomizes me and reforms me into the shape of a sausage, then eaten and crapped out by a random space monster from germany only to be woken up in the bed of my prison cell to be dragged out to my execution....

as long as i get to free roam and explore like i did in morrowind and oblivion, then the starting locations means piss to me, with a dash of derp.

You can't fix what 'aint broke.

I don't really know. It's more like a tradition to start in prison in a TES game, so I don't really find it lame.