Many of you 90% justify laziness of Bethesda staff or they are just cheapscates ,and thats to bad...no criticism by majority of fan base is bad for game quality .... I am on witcher 3 forum as well as here. And there if I post meaningfull question I get answer from staff very fast! So if they can do it why big company like Bethesda cant do the same? They only need ti hire dozen comunity forum admins witch only job would be talk to comunity.is that too much money to spend for one of biggest company's?

...diffrence is witcher 3 is out, so of course they can talk about it, Fallout 4 isn't even out yet.

Every company handles engagement with fans differently. Your definition of "shameful" is something you need to work out for yourself.

Gstaff is a Bethesda Employee.

That said, I have never known Bethesda to just "come chat" -shrug-

Over the years Have gotten accustomed to their way.. It is frustrating ..

I do believe these forums are read.. That is what the moderators are for.

The moderators are NOT Bethesda Employees though.. As far as I know..

Statements are made when they feel they need to, such as the statement about mods being ONLY for xbox1 and fallout 4 and not other Bethesda games.

I also do not see their lack of communication with thousands of fans , daily, as shameful.

It is just the way they do things.

I know this company. I have modded for this company.. I do not "justify" anyone elses behavior other than my own.

They are grown men and women.. They can speak for themselves.. I do not need to speak for them.

CD:Projeckt red is a new company.. Eagar to make their spot in the gaming world..

Bethesda has been around for a long time.. Also they are busy right now..

Do you want them to carry on making Fallout 4 or come here and chit chat with you?

This might sound paranoid or delusional, but think about it. I think that there are users on the board who work for pr in some capacity, either Beth employees or subcontractors, who spin things positive. Probably only when a games being released and after the initial release.

I would do it if I was as wealthy as they are. The money spent on ads etc, a few hundred a week to pay a few people to start positive threads or just write positive posts in negative threads. I wouldnt be surprised in the least.

Any Bethesda Employee should have that under their name..

I don't believe they "hide" to make things better than they are.. if that is what you are saying.

Last time I saw a Dev come on to be social, he got bombarded with a million questions. Very very specific questions, and in it's entirety, everyone just wanted to know EVERYTHING, and the guy could not get a word in edgewise.

Let the game speak for them. They don't need to make small talk with us on the forums.

True, but even a FO dev needs a break. Don't want them to drop dead from fatigue or get completely burned out. Some people sound like the devs need to be doing nothing but eat/sleep/work on game ... and of course you can eat while working.

I can't see them doing that (this isn't BioWare) but it wouldn't surprise me if they start some thread like "Who here likes X in the game" while incognito, just to get some immediate feedback on something they are working on, maybe even some new ideas on how to do it. The forum, for all it's faults, can be a great resource for that.

Yes indeed they need breaks.. -s-

I have never seen one. After the news of Fallout 4, I seriously doubt they ever read their own forums.

Oh I think they do. A certain level of professionalism would say they have to, but they don't have to respond.

I always believed they make a drinking game out of the forums.

One shot for every "Aliens are ruining fallout" post.

They were going to start a game of take a shot everytime a fan complaints its not like the old fallout games, but then they realised they die of alcohol poisoning.

The old saying, "Loose lips sink ships", is a saying for a reason.

Obsidian developers were here all the time after New Vegas was announced.

If Bethesda developers do read these forums, they don't show themselves.

It's easy to hire someone to just listen to the fans. After Skyrim, thousands of people are begging to work for Bethesda. Give someone a part time job just to see what the fans want and browse different forums. They have the ability to do so. Howard says that they've got the perfect number of people working for them (which I disagree with), so why not hire one more person to see what the fans want?

And no, don't say that they do read the forum and pay attention to what we want. That's just lying to yourselves. They often give us the opposite of what we ask for. After Oblivion, everyone wanted many of the elements of Morrowind to come back and to have the game be more of a role playing game again, but they instead made it more of an action adventure game and took away elements we liked and frequently said we liked. If they listened to what the fans wanted, Skyrim would not be as it was.

I mean, they make great games, The Elder Scrolls is my favourite piece of media of all time, but they do not communicate well with their fan base at all. How can anyone in their fan base honestly think that? The only time they talk to us is to tell us a bunch of lies to make us want the game, like saying that you can destroy buildings and it'll affect the local economy. And then when we get the game we have a bunch of things in it we specifically said we didn't want.

vsions was poking around here a while ago yet nobody bombarded him with questions like they should have.

Mostly because folks know there is no use doing so.

Ummm...

its all about how you ask your question vsions is bethesdas character designer we coulda had some info on if the player can become a super mutant or a ghoul if only someone asked.

I did ask him if we could export/import faces. He did respond, but it was "I can't talk about things not released", which I expected ... but I had to ask anyway.

Obsidian developers responded to messages, forum posts and even emails. Just saying

Frankly, that attitude (that any Dev that comes in here SHOULD be harassed with tons of questions), is likely why they don't show themselves. Can't blame them.

Again, different companies, different policies. You can label a "potential gag order" on the Devs as "shameful", but that's just your opinion (that you are more than entitled to). Bethesda doesn't owe our little band of forum fanatics anything and believing they do is a bit delusion and shameful in of itself.

which worked because they where making a none numbered spin-off, most what was to come was already quite figured out since they use the same engine as 3, plus most replies was elaborating on public information, it wasn't like the forum was there go to place to reveal a secret.

4 is a brand new project, all the reason to be tight lipped.