Anyone going to miss the "feel" of Oblivion? : V - Skyrim

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:16 pm

Every Elder Scrolls game is more like an entirely new game of its own, with some mild connections to the previous one. I guess in those terms it could be compared to Final Fantasy... i guess... Anyways, They all have a different atmosphere and environment to them, and as such, shouldn't really be compared in that sense. Gameplay unfortunately took a downturn in Oblivion for me, but it wasn't dreadful, now its modded for fast paced, short term battles. Everything is so roided up that you focus on killing them in as few hits as possible, and spend more time dodging than blocking. Took out the repetition by adding more risk from enemies.
One other thing oblivion needed was a little more hand-designed areas, so it wasn't all the same stretch of randomly generated forest. Idk, I'm hoping that I will enjoy the Skyrim environment. Southern areas forested. as you head north more mountains, more snow, and more ruins, I'm glad to see an RPG in the frozen wasteland environment. Its not all that popular I guess because so many are based off of our world, where the far north tends to lack all that much variety in life. Skyrim can have anything up there though, the limit comes only from the dev's imaginations.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:22 pm

Oblivion didn't have a magical feel to it att all in my eyes, so no!! I will not miss anything from Oblivion in fact. Morrowind had a truly unique feeling, but I want Skyrim to stand on its own and have its own magical and brutal feeling.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:57 pm

It sounds like you all hate Oblivion. Which is wrong. You like Morrowind better because it was your first TES experience. Mine is Oblivion, and it will always be special for me. I'm excited for Skyrim, but I'll miss the magic of Oblivion of course.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:44 am

How do you know the feel of Skyrim before even playing the game?

^
This

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:48 pm

no

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:13 pm

Completely agree with you OP, I fear I may become like the passionate Morrowinders who nit pick every little thing wrong with Oblivion and say that it ruined The Elder Scrolls.

No! We'll never be like them! :whistling:

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:41 pm

I loved Morrowind, and I loved Oblivion. Both games I have spent more hours than I care to admit. (modded and unmodded)

And now, I am really looking forward to Skyrim. I am normally a mage type character, but I am really digging the Conan vibe. It might just be fun to play a big bad barbarian in a wild and raw world. (of course I will play a mage and then a kinght and then a spy and then a ....)

Storm

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:17 pm

If your profile is indeed correct, weren't you 3 when Daggerfall came out?

:batman:

And your point is Mr. Silly Batman? You don't have to have been around back then to read posts from people who were and have talked about it.

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:44 am

I probably won't miss anything from oblivion. The only situation where I might miss Oblivion is if Skyrim is worse in certain aspects, which I highly doubt.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:07 pm

Oblivion was new and awesome. Now is mature and still awesome.
Boring? Well, vanilla game had 1 esm + Shivering Isles esp + 9 DLC esp files, total maximum vanila load order = 11 files.
Check this load order:

Spoiler

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I doubt that vanila Skyrim can match this.
With some luck however, and hard working modding community we might see within 3 years a more vicious, harder place and go in Tamriel on vacation.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:29 pm

Will I miss it it? Probably not, OB was the first game I played, and while it was a great game, it wasn't the greatest TES ever made. MW was definitely better, and Skyrim will hopefully top them both. If I ever do miss OB though I can just pop it back in and play it.

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:33 am

Idk. Problem is like most people I never do the MQ or some of the large Guilds anymore so you really miss out on the big epic stuff, which the MQ actually has quite a bit of. So youre left with relatively boring and bland vanilla content in addition to your mods which, while fairly well written, arnt really good enough to hold my interest for long personally.

Most of it I wont miss, and its not like Im going to uninstall Oblivion and Morrowind when Skyrim comes out.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:24 pm

Oblivion had feel and atmosphere? What are you smoking and what did I miss?

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:45 pm

...I remember when I first played Oblivion and created a mage-type character, fighting spell caster NPC's ( mainly necromancers and the conjurers of the mages guild in the imperial city ) was just so fun...

...fighting spell caster NPC's was just so fun...

...fighting spell caster NPC's was just so fun...

You are JOKING. Fighting a guy that would throw a damn spell, conjure a familiar (either a demon or undead) and RUN AWAY LIKE A GIRL was complete HELL. I gave up on trying the mages guild questline again because I got so fed up with all the necromancers that would do this mess. So when I find a dungeon with conjurers, I cry and run in slaughtering them all, also I play an assassin almost exclusively now because if I can grease them without them seeing me, then it isn't a game of cornering the idiot and cutting them down.

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:40 am

For me, the only thing OB really had going for was the music.

And Jeremy Soule came back, so I am not worried.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:53 pm

No. Skyrim seems to have more personality.

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:47 am

I loved the feel of Oblivion. But I'm not going to miss it. I loved the world and I had fun living in it, but I'm ready for a new world with new experiences.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:07 pm

I'm a big Oblivion fanb0y (lol), and yes it does irritate me when people slag the game off on here. I see their point though. Its just i experienced Oblivion first with 0 expectations.
I feel now like Oblivion is a dry orange that i have svckled every last bit of juice out of. It was great, time to move on to bigger and better things.

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. BRING IT!

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:22 am

I'm guessing I will at some point. But then I will just go back and play Oblivion again. I went back to Morrowind after playing Oblivion for some time and installed some juicey new mods.

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:57 am

not really I can just go play Oblivion

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:54 pm

No, because Oblivion was the most boring game I ever played.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:32 pm

Hey guys! Personal opinion speaking here,

I'm thanking God every day that it wont have the same "feel" as Oblivion, because Oblivion was a watered down Morrowind to the max. I'm hoping they bring back the nitty gritty feel of Morrowind, and get rid of the western fantasy RPG care-bear feel of Oblivion.

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:14 am

No, because the feel did not meet my expectations. One playthrough vanilla and one with mods were more than enough for me. I need something better than that. Especially in terms of story, depth and atmosphere.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:04 pm

I sense a slight return to morrowind... so the feel will certainly get better.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:25 pm

I feel now like Oblivion is a dry orange that i have svckled every last bit of juice out of. It was great, time to move on to bigger and better things.

I love that anology

Storm