Your point? Bethesda owns Fallout. Therefore, it owns New Vegas. Therefore, they should wise up and use what Obsidian implemented.

Yes, it's as if they made a conscious decision to ignore the good things on such pleasing and obvious display in NV, and just go with a pretty first-person 'hacker' game that would wow the legion of ADD-afflicted MW3/Battlefield kiddies and make a scad of money as a result. Sounds like they succeeded. Business success trumps quality of depth and the desires of the intelligent minority of your fanbase, always.

I've owned Skyrim for just over a couple weeks now, and still have yet to pull myself away from New Vegas long enough to even fully unwrap it, much less play it. (For the record I got NV November 11th, and so far have 500 game hours, and still haven't beaten it, and am STILL finding new stuff!) I think that when the time comes, like with all similar games of a type, there will be some features I will love about one, that are lacking in the other. Guns, energy weapons, power armor etc will be lacking in Skyrim, but I will never, ever get magic in NV. All in all, I think I'll enjoy each equally, except for the bug ridden mess that Bethesda leaves in most of their games, lol.

Wow just wow the bf3/mw3 kiddies as you call them are the legion of people that bash the crap out This game you blow my mind sir.

Ontopic I love skyrim fully ingrossed as I have been with fo1,fo2fo3 fonv and oblivion and I plan to go back to each of them.

I think you misunderstood what I wrote, but I guess I could have done a better job of writing it, so I'll blame me. I was defending NV and saying Skyrim was more aimed at that crowd, basically.

i'm in open world heaven with characters percolating in the back of my mind while I'm in Skyrim. So far for 300 hours and I'm having a blast - awesome game. I just heard about the No Mutants Allowed mod so I'll be playing FNV again and it won't be that long. I go back and forth and that helps to keep them all fresh too. I never finished all the DLC for FNV because I wanted to save them for later...it's such a great game. Happy New Year!

I am.

I didn't play for a couple weeks, but then I felt the itch. And I'm still scratching it.

Im hope hope hoping that you can get tons of companions in future fallouts.

As long as they aren't like Skyrim's.

Not at the moment but I will be back, Fallout New Vegas is still vastly superior to that game, that has nice graphics & art direction but is void of anything else, called Skyrim.

Yep. If they all have interesting quests and believable back stories to go along with them, I don't care how many companions they put in the game. Although I do think that a high Charisma should be required to get most of the companions if there were to be a lot of them in the next game. Because not that many people are going to follow the PC around and tell them the story of their life unless the PC is very charismatic.

Lol, skyrim's companions could all pretty much pass as the same companion. They have no real depth to them, and literally aside from the distinction of using magic or weapons fight the same too. It doesn't help that the follower AI is all broken so half the time they don't even use all the weapons you give them! One House Carl is pretty much the same as them all, dialgoue wise and function wise. Not to mention the others you pick up don't fair any better then them. *Eye balls Lydia to start using the damn Daedric custom enchanted bow in your inventory along with the custom enchanted daedric sword and stop using that damned default hunting bow! XD*

Really all skyrims companions are is a more broken CM Partners mod for any of those who used it in Morrowind and Oblivion to bring in some pretty faces to help you out.

Yes, but not as often, mainly because I find myself swapping between:

Fallout
Fallout 2
Fallout: Tactics
Fallout 3
Fallout: New Vegas
Skyrim
Mass Effect
Mass Effect 2
Dungeon Seige III
and Darksiders.

I suspect Final Fantasy XIII-2 will bombard it's way into that list at the end of the month as well.

Really starting to come back to the Wastes though, love Skyrim but, disapointed with a few features that could have been better, granted I'll still play the living crap out of it, but the Wastes have been calling me since November, time to answer the call.

I find myself disappointed in Skyrim. I had such high hopes for it. I tried and tried to like it, but here I am, back in the wastes, putting Skyrim behind me.

If only I could step on a dragon skull in my T-51b! Well, there's FEV...maybe something mutated into something close to a dragon. Until then, I'll have to settle for Fire Geckos and Deathclaws to stomp on until my boots are too slippery to walk.

Skyrim? What's that?

Wow lots of responses and mixed answers, I like. Just got back from Montreal for New Years and saw this haha. But yeah just started a brand new file on NV, I missed the Mojave, it almost feels nostalgic.

I have also heard the call and have started a new character. I can't seem to put my finger and what Skyrim is lacking for me that NV has. Im a huge fan of both series and having been waiting for Syrim's release for sometime, actually the only game I have ever been to a midnight release for but after 60 hours put down and started to replay NV. I guess my best reason is it's not more like Morrowind but a better graphic Oblivion? If that makes any sense?

For me, it was that it was streamlined too much, and linked too tightly to aging console hardware which limited it's potential and capabilities.

But I still love me some NV!

I personally thought that Skyrim took the series in the wrong direction. Rather than being more complex and deep than Oblivion (which, IMO, was the most shallow Elder Scrolls Pre-Skyrim) and more like Morrowind, Skyrim felt so shallow that I couldn't even wade in it. No one really acknowledged what you did or who you were, and the quests for the factions were not well-developed. If I were to compare them to New Vegas, I'd say that probably the most shallow faction quests (Companions, College of Winterhold) were about on par with the side-quests in New Vegas and the deepest faction quests (Thieves Guild) were on par with the Powder Ganger quest "I Fought the Law". Skyrim claims to offer more, but that's only because more means more pieces.

You could take the two games as apples. New Vegas is sliced in three equal pieces, while Skyrim is sliced in 10 unequal pieces. Skyrim, on the surface, appears to be larger, but in reality only one or two quests actually feel like rewarding quest lines (the larger pieces) while the rest of the "Radiant" and faction quests feel like filler (smaller pieces). New Vegas obviously appears to be smaller, but the level of detail in most of the quests is even - they're all generally well-thought out and detailed.

Indeed many faction questline where only like 3 fairly simple quests, where you advanced at a lolcopter rate. (winterhold, bards, companions) Not to mention how many broken and glitch quest's there are. The radiant questing is pretty sad and is only really good for is giving you a reason to go to the random places everywhere that are pretty much a cookie cutter copy of the general tile set used.

I devo still play this game. May not be as good as Fallout 3 but it has the style which I really enjoy with it being set in a place which was untouched by nukes but still has it's fair share of problems. Also it is just a very well storied game. It's simple... Revenge. xD I also like all the side quests which I am guessing I haven't done them all yet ot visited the locations. Hopefully before Fallout 4 comes out I will have finished all the Fallout stilll. I also play Fallout 3, Fallout 2 and 1. xD

Did play it a bit when it came out but two of the faction quests (thieves guild and companions) have bugged and now ended up getting back into New Vegas and realised how much better it is

Yup, came back to NV after 200 hugely disappointing hours in Skyrim, no depth or challenge.

Having so much fun blasting through the all the DLC, can't wait to play OWB and LR