This made me laugh a bit.

Is it really always good...? :rolleyes:

I don't know which part of England you live in, but I've never seen a 50's coal town that looked anything like America. Our buildings are smaller, closer together and in some cases older.



Resistance: Fall of Man on PS3 is very much a retro futuristic Britain, and despite being an American dev team, it worked really well. I've been to most of the places in the game, and its fairly close to the British Austerity 50s (as opposed to the USA's pop-culture explosion). A Britain actually set in the Fallout future would propbably jsut be alot more degraded. British Sci fi of the 50s is almost nonexistent, but since our 60s were pretty much America's 50s, much of it could be taken from Sci fi of the 60s. Which would mean more dystopian governments, RP accents, Sten guns (they're everywhere in UK sci fi. Must be cheap props) while still having, for some reason, rows and rows of postwar 50's housing. The rest of the technology would pretty much be like the american stuff, but all beige and avocado coloured.



That said, while I'd love this game to happen, I don't think it would be a good idea to take Fallout away from the American 50s aesthetic.

I think Britain would be a great location, at least for a spinoff game like New Vegas.

1. The British 50s and 60s have got some interesting motifs (like the teddy boy subculture) and sci-fi themes (like Orwellian states, Dr. Who etc.) that would go well in a Fallout environment. And I've seen pictures of English 50's families: the radios, the clothing and the comics all look similar to the Fallout series.
2. The new locale would mean the overused Enclave and BoS would not be appearing (unless in a small role), but due to Britain and America being culturally similar, other companies like RobCo, MedTek and maybe even Vault-Tec could appear. Things would be different, but not too different (unlike, say, China.)
3. You cannot say Fallout would not be Fallout without an American setting. It would still be in the same canon, have the same nuclear war.

However, while I'm in favour of it, it does bring two questions to mind: what will happen to Vault Boy and Pip Boy?

But it wouldn't feel the same. It would either be an accurate UK 50s austerity period, alienating fans of the kooky US 50s, or it would be a carbon copy of the US transplanted into London, which would annoy everyone.

It would feel different, yes. But the pre-war clothing, the radios, the food products and such would look similar, and the UK had a sci-fi scene throughout the 50s and 60s much like Americas. As I said, it would be different, but not too different.

I like that idea. Playing the Fallout games, it makes me wonder how badly the other countries got hit. Did they get it worse or less than us?

Maybe with the PNA global warming, Finnland was turned into a plentiful tropical paradise...

Since Global warming is a relatively recent theory, it can be assumed it did not happen in Fallout's world.

I think global warming exists in the Fallout universe; purely theory though.

One thing though: In Europe, I can imagine that a large amount of low lying areas like parts of the Netherlands will be under irradiated water.

I see, that explains why Maryland has turned into a sandy desert... :rolleyes: Really dude, I wasn't referring to the Greenhouse Effect, just the fact the post-war Fallout world is a much warmer place -- IOW, it went through a global warming (notice: no capitals). If The NE US is now a year-round hot desert, then it's safe to assume Finnland would also be warmer. It was just a nonsense joke though, no need to be anolytical about it.

I'd like to see places in Europe done in fallout. Rome or London. Maybe Paris. However since most inner city buildings are not skyscraqers in alot of european capitals it would take away some of the dread and look more like a ww2 game situated in Stalingrad than post apocalyptia. However FO Tokyo would be interesting. Considering the buildings and the complete lack of foodstufs produced in Japan it would be quite a harsh place to have to survive.

London comes to mind as a European city with a lot of prominent modern buildings and CBDs mixed in with the old. I think Paris, Berlin and some smaller cities have also got skyscraqers and whatnot.

I should think the entire United Kingdom would look like Slough.

I would like to see Fallout: UK

They could have the story line delve into the Great War, show betrayal on America's part so when you travel to Europe you are absolutely hated.

Europe's vision of a post apocalyptic world has always been Anarchy and Punk, so it could be a cross between the anti-establishment neo punk future with the other half being Medieval with Kingdoms and knights

Well,

Considering that the fallout universe is well, ya know, fictional a "Global" fallout isn't that farfetched.

besides that, in our (Europe) fifties most of Europe was still being rebuild and battered (WW2 anyone) it is a possibility that instead of lending just financial aid (marshall plan) the US gained a lot more influence over Europe than in our timeline.

Adding the fact that Europe had been in a very destructive war before the Great War (resource wars) it would prove a very interesting game if it takes place in Europe (or wherever)

Also count in the: New factions, new locations, new type weapons, difference in attitude of people, etc. etc.

Okay, there are things that are not very likely to be in the game, for example Power Armor, but if it is necessary the US army had a lot of detachments in Europe after the ww2 that are still in use now (Rammstein air force base, and until the Berlin Wall fell, a detachment in Berlin itself, so it is likely there still would have been a remnant in 2077.

Anyway, I'm starting to drift off, bottom line is: It would be an awesome spin-off game/series, but if this is going to be fallout >4 I won't like it. Fallout 4 (and 5 and 6 and so on) need to stay in the USA.

I dont think the US would stay in europe at the formation of the EC, and if they did stay then i think they would pull back when then resources wars started.

Maybe I'm missing something: but where was it stated that other countries did not have access to power armour in some form? I don't think China did, but I don't know; what is a possibility is that the Americans traded power armour with allies (such as probably Britain) if they didn't make it themselves.

Even if relationships between the US and the UK were frosty (a strong possibility), power armour could have been traded pre-argument.

I see mostly everyone sticking to the idea of Fallout being in Europe, whether they would to make a spinoff in another country that is. But what about other places like Africa??? Idk that would be interesting, fighting off giant mutated elephants or lions and monkeys, having to travel through the harsh deserts, rainforests, etc. Althrough africa wouldn't be nuked, im sure we all know that, but still the radiation would get to them. Also any ideas on Antarctica??? That would be awesome, having to survive everyday in harsh bizzards fighting off mutated wolves polar bears and maybe like mutated whales? They are just random ideas but they would be very interesting.

It is actually stated nowhere, but given the fact that power armor was first produced in 2065 and the resource wars started in 2052, it is very unlikely that the USA would give up that tech. Due to the resource wars (the) Europe(an Commonwealth) was turned into quarreling states fighting over their last resources.

The USA would have nothing to gain from trading their tech to Europe. I know that by saying this I made some of the things I said in my last post unlikely or invalid, but nobody's perfect

No Fallout game, not even a spin-off, should be outside of the U.S., ever. That game would be an abomination to the Fallout series. It just wouldn't work. Fallout is designed to be in the U.S. and to feature American beliefs, from the 50's, about the future. Vaults are a major part of the series and are only in America. Power Armor, vault boy, vault-tech, the Enclave, the BoS, super mutants, and deathclaws are all U.S. only and they are major parts of the Fallout series.

Vault-Tec could be in the UK, you know. Coca-Cola is found in many places abroad, and due to similarities between the UK and the US of A it is not unrealistic to assume some pre-War companies traded globally. A PipBoy could be found as a scavenged piece of tech, and Power Armour could be even rarer and harder to obtain, but weapons smuggling and such would likely mean it would survive.

And tbh, the Enclave and BOS are not "essential". They are getting boring and worn out. A new country would be a perfect excuse for new enemies and factions.

I'd prefer to see a european rival to vault tec.... Like Boeing and Airbus.

Europe was a non-issue/irrelevant in the Great War from all the evidence left over, so I don't see why a foreign land should be the focus when hardly any of Fallout's homeland has been covered.



Vault-Tec was a front for the US government/the enclave's vault experiment, and it's already been confirmed that there are no vaults outside of the US and (annexed) Canada.

There need not be Vaults in Europe (or anywhere else) We literally have tons of normal Fallout shelters, the ones intended for governments are build to last and sustain life for a large amount of time.
Alhtough it would be very different to previous fallout games, it is an interesting idea that, if worked out right, could prove a valuable addition to existing canon.

As I said, it does negate factors that a lot of fans consider to be important to the fallout world, vaults, vault-tec etc. The american paranoia in the fifties was also existent in Europe, although not in the extent as it was in the States. But please keep in mind that the Fallout world is not our world, and the devs can permit themselves a lot of artistic freedom to make such a game fit in the existing canon.

And besides that, if it svcks, we could aways deny its importance to the series, like most of us did with the abominations called Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel

Yeah, bad example. My point was, 95% of the Fallout companies (RobCo, General Atomics, Nuka-Cola, elements of MedTek...) could appear in Fallout Britain or whatever. Vault-Tec could still have a limited role, but only say, a former Vault-Tec employee gone rogue and living in London or something like that. I also imagine many governments initiated Vault-like programmes, mostly with no malevolent purpose. They may even have been named Vaults, as no malevolent purpose was known at the time. Britain could have afforded a "Vault" programme. It may have failed or only had limited success or been restricted, but regardless.