A fallout in europe would be cool, a long as it show that europe had been fighting a war for years before the great war, Rusted tanks in the streets, mangled anti air guns on rooftops, artillery emplacments, downed planes and helicopters, trenchlines and other fortifications.

But if your gonna do it in britian please dont set it in london, its been done to death, london is a very boring place, the game would just be a big city set it somewhere not done much. If im sticking with the resource wars theme set it up north, lots of coal up here very vital to defend. (and then you could have crazy steam punk tech)

London would not be boring and London has hardly been done to death. It's fairly common as a game location, but nowhere near as common as, say, NYC or other certain American cities and regions.

I say set it in Berlin, that would have been the setting of many resource war battles as it is quite central in Europe and was probably an economic center.

Wrecked national Monuments.... Getting around by an old underground railroad.... Sound like any game you've played recently?

Well, most cities viable for a Fallout game would have wrecked monuments of some form, as well as an underground transit system of some form, and it will probably be in Fallout London. But, it does not need to have as big a role as the Metro.

I'm only defending London to the death because I'm working on a Fallout London idea.

No, Fallout belongs ONLY in the U.S. That is what the game is about. Do not tear away the very foundation of the series' setting.

Why everything go to UK/Europe?

There are lots of other destinations around the world where we may Fallout. If it is really a Series I hope to hear new Locations soon.

Cheers...

Well, I didn't go through the whole discussion, but I read some parts of it. I think that the Fallout series should remain within the US. It would be cool to see what happened to China and many other places, but as pointed out already, the Enclave and BoS are solely American groups that would not belong in such places. The story would have to change so much that it wouldn't even be Fallout anymore. It'd be just another post-apocalyptic game, with the Fallout title attached to it for kicks. (And that's not what anybody wants.)

I also want to point out that Canada was annexed by the US. If the player were to visit Canada, they'd see a different enviroment and probably some different factions, but it's still America. It might be interesting if there were some struggle between (what used to be) Canada and the United States though. Maybe the Canadians want to seperate and reclaim their independence? I'm not sure if such a storyline would belong in Fallout, but it'd be kinda cool to watch that unfold.

Yeah, but do the Enclave or BOS need to be in every game? I think not.
Do there need to be Vaults in every game, well yes and no. Yes because if you say fallout I think Vault (and vice versa) but if another setting (outside of USA for example) is worked out right, and still have influences such as nuka cola or robco or whatever, it could be a worthy (and fun to play) addition to the series.

The Enclave and the BoS have nothing to do with the FO setting so that's kind of a moot point


You do know neither Canada nor the US existed anymore, right? There would actually be nothing to regain independence from anything.

I brought up the independence thing only as an 'idea' for a story. Maybe it's not a good one, but I'm sure you've had your fair share of slip-ups as well. I wrote the message at 4 in the morning. How alert am I going to be? Excuse me for thinking aloud.

No need to explain yourself to me. You made a suggestion and I commented on it. That's what's forums are about, you know. Sigh, what's up with people here lately that they're so sensitive? :shrug:

EDIT: Oh, I noticed you said something else inside my quote there. I'll answer it here:


The BoS was already dwindling in F2, and by VB it was supposed to be on the brink of losing the war with the NCR. As for the Enclave, it was completely destroyed as a cohesive faction, with only small bands of survivors scattered about and fending off for themselves. Tactics is semi-canon at bset and FOBOS not even that. In F2, there was mere passing mentions of the Master's Army, and cameo appearances at best of previous factions (including the BoS), which shows FO was never really meant to be a franchise of recurring players.

If you look back at your response, maybe you could see that it appeared to be very cynical. I don't know if that was your intent, but as I interpreted it, you were talking down to me as if I'm oh-so-stupid. Need I point out that we're on the internet? Some things are hard to interpret through words. Sarcasm can be mistaken for insults, and so on.

With a remark such as:


I don't know how you expect me to react? Perhaps my reaction was sensitive, but I think you also need to step back and examine what you said too. The fault doesn't lie completely with me. Anyway, no hard feelings. I'm just tired of having to defend myself all the time.

But what kind of creatures would there be? Evil mutant badgers and evil mutant hedgehogs?

Well, Radscorpions would return, being from pet shops. Other pets include dogs, cats (big cats prowling the streets of suburban London?), snakes, hamsters and such. Bears are sometimes found in zoos, but I'd imagine them to be rare. Creatures like Mirelurks, Radroaches, Bloatflies, Ghouls, Geckos and such could plausibly return.

I think the best area for Fallout would be southeast Britain, focused around the remains of London.

Seeing as the U.S. disbanded the U.N. and China most likely inhaled Russia during the Resource Wars, I'm thinking Europe got less of a nuclear spanking than the U.S. and mainland China. How else would Alistair Tenpenny find a good enough ship to get from the U.K. to the D.C. tidal basin?

Ah, aside from the debatable geopolitical points, you brought up Tenpenny. He came to USA to make his fortune. It was explicitly stated by Fallout 3 designers that this shows the UK is buggered.

Doesnt actually prove it though.... I'm originaly from Australia, living in the UK, and Australia is isnt quite buggered

Australia would be screwed; the fallout would kick up into the atmosphere and, carried by the jet streams, land in Australia and its waters.

It was stated specifically by designers. I think we can safely assume the UK was hit. And what did my statement have to do with Australia?

It does not show that the UK is worse than the US, aside from there being no (or little) communication between the countries, people go to aftermaths of war zones to seek fortunes all the time, iv got a family member who does it with a reconstruction company, he travel from the UK to Iraq that dosn't prove that the UK is in a worse state than iraq.

Absolutely nothing .... But, as you would have realised if you read my post correctly, just because one person moves from one part of the world to the other (such as myself) doesnt mean one place is particularly bad.

Dev comments are fine, but until they're in the game they don't count 100% - What is said in Future games trumps what devs say today. The act of one person moving from one part of the other without stating his reasons in game doesnt "lock in" those dev comments.

Well, if America was hit and the Brits weren't, the Brits would probably know before too long. Thus, noone would go their to make a fortune. Evl mnkey, your relative going to Iraq is different. Iraq still has a government, still has proper civilisation and even if Iraq does descend into a wasteland with no chance of proper reconstruction, he can come back. That would not be easy for Tenpenny (and Moriarty, and possibly Dukov.) It would pretty much be a one way ticket, returning would take years to prepare and then longer to get back. The Brits must have been in bad shape, and unaware of what happened to America, to attempt to return.

Again.... no. Certain Continents were "civilised" by folks with a one-way ticket, and the places they came from werent hell-on-earth.

FallOut Sweden: Mutant Polarbears, IKEA-made shelters, all humans have commited suicide BEFORE the Great War.
Except for the ABBA-cultists :intergalactic:
Nah I prefer FallOut as is.