Don't think this is a thread where i ask to be convinced to get this game, because I'm already hooked and have been following it for several months. What I'm wondering is if this game will appeal to the vast majority of people who play CoD and other FPS games. Those players are used to just running around and racking up as many kills as they can without dieing. Im still not sure if this game will appeal to them because instead of simply killing people, there is a system of damage experience and multipliers. I don't think that the people who play CoD and call themselves hardcoe gamers will want to learn a new system of FPS because they don't want to be seperated from their precious modern warfare, because deep down most of them are just casual gamers who only play CoD but for hours on end. What do you guys think?

I say if the CoD fans can't learn that their K/D count isn't what makes you a good player then more power to the people who understand in Brink there is no K/D stat for them to keep track of. While they are running around killing for the sake of it we can complete our objectives and get tons more XP then the K/D crazed people. Maybe after awhile when they find themselves at a much lower level than the people who understand Brink is objective based maybe they can think hey I can still kill people I just should help out my team to complete this objective so I can earn more XP. Which in this case everyone wins the CoD fans get to go and destroy everything the breathes (while trying to be helpful) and the rest who focus on objectives and kill when it is necessary.

*phew* that was a mouthful. :whistling:

and dont forget this game is not about getting more XP imo

No, but SD has done their best to give the most XP to players who play the game as its intended, and offer less to players who aren't mission or team oriented. Ideally, once people start playing like a team, they will find it more fun and stop caring about the XP. So, I think a comparison to training wheels wouldn't be too off target.

1: game IS about getting XP
2: you just don't get XP for lone wolf or sniping
3: the Leroy Jenkins and Boom Headshot people will whine and moan because they don't rank up on killing alone and there's no "sniping" (ohk) and leave
4: the more mature people who want an immersive FPS will finally get one, smaller community but more stable and lasting
5: or Bethesda may cave in to the lowest common denominator and nerf the life out of it, and then I'll have to wait till SD finds a new publisher and wait 5 more years for something to replace W:ET for game gut pleasure

The game is about fun, not about Exp. When someone gets to the level cap, they will keep playing with that character. Why? because its fun. Also, Bethesda is just a publisher, I'm pretty sure SD is in charge of patches, not Bethesda. Even then, I wouldn't expect them to go totally against what SD is aiming to achieve.

this games alot like mag in a way that there is more of an objective to it and not just killing and k/d.. cant wait for the game

"When someone gets to the level cap, they will keep playing with that character. Why?"

because they get to bank the XP and use it on another character, because that's fun too

think of XP as money the game gives YOU, not your character, YOU always have it no matter what character you're playing as at any time.


Publishers are the ones who pony up the cash, they have a monstrous say on how the game is dealt with, btw, saying Bethesda is just a publisher is kinda rude. Publishers pay to have OUR games developed, I agree with the concept, but not all publishers deal with their developers the same, some run a heavey hand.


I have absolute faith that SD can produce a stellar game if they're given the chance and the follow through support that they didn't get last time out.

Well, I for one don't plan on playing the game just for exp. If I play as part of the team, it will start collecting on its own, and I don't think I'm going to be part of the minority in this respect.

I said that Bethesda is JUST a publisher because, in the context of programming Brink, they really are just the publisher. As opposed to games like Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout 3; where they were both the developer AND publisher. As a publisher, they have initial say on what projects they accept, and they ultimately have the yes and no on budgeting and possibly even what gets cut, but for the most part they will allow the developer to make the game they originally set out to make. There may be heavy handed publishers out there, but there are no reports of Bethesda being one of them. In fact, Bethesda is well known for supporting the hardcoe fans of their games, especially the modding community.

I should point out, however, that there is no negative connotation implied when I use the word "just". Saying Obama is just the president doesn't take away from the massive responsibility of the job, it might just mean that hes not part of the judiciary branch.

I think BRINK will satisfy the Battlefield players more than the Modern Warfare 2 players. Or rather: It will satisfy those who don't like the massive battles of Battlefield but also dislike the complete stupidity of MW2.

I think xp is a necessary evil. Low xp for kills, higher xp for objectives and helping the team.

I hope this can somewhat replace my feeling of relaxation like in the Wolf ET days And I think they're doing pretty damn good in accomplishing this.

well im playing CoD myself and i preordered brink.i agree with u k/d doesnt mean ur a good player for instance u can tube camp etc. but i always go for the objective when playing ctf i try to cap and usually defend when i lag. the thing is playing the objective actually gets u more kills than actually going for kills XD so all those k/d kids can [censored] off

MUST START OFF; OP ES GOD!!!
loving this idea from the START!

It's because they don't want to appeal to most COD players. We want REAL team play. Brink is something new, something fresh. Instead of trying to change this game into a lone wolf COD game, just stick with that game.

I am a COD player, but I also am/was a borderlands player. So I'm all about team play when necessary and effective. And it will always be like that in Brink apparently.

I think that mainstream gamers like yourself should be weeded out and go to COD or other games trying to be like it.

I like smart, because it looks cool. Simple as that.

I want to learn this new system. I may have been skeptical on this system, but I don't want to change it. I want to try it out and learn it because of what splash damage is trying to do.

In summary, stop trying to change this game into some generic FPS like COD or Halo and go look else ware. Nobody is forcing you to get this game.

Edit: I am an idiot. Forgive me for not thoroughly reading the post.

No, it will not. I think it will weed out all the mainstream gamers like those.

YES! It will, I am an avid COD player but BRINK is the one game I am most excited about. Why? Because the COD franchise lacks the player customization that Brink is bursting at the seams with. I'll play COD until this comes out, then its BRINK FTW!

I don't think that players are as loyal to a single play-style as many others seem to think. Players will tend to do what they deem to be the most effective strategy in the game they are playing. In CoD, camping works, so people camp. The point of games is having fun, and for most people, winning is fun. Some players are only willing to win by playing "fair', or using the most skillful means possible, but many have no such qualms, even if they are legit players. (as opposed to people who will even abuse glitches and hacks to win)

But in brink, winning will require teamwork, and objective based gameplay. I don't think players who only focus on winning will have any problem switching styles when they start losing, even when they have the most kills. I also find it hard to believe they wont have fun playing as a team, and with all of the incentives SD is giving, it wont be a hard switch to make.

If cod players dont want to buy this game, which looks much better then modern warfare 2 and black ops, then they are [censored] But, were better off not having the little kid army from cod and halo to find this game anyways

I'm actually hoping that that's what Cod would be. Or preferably just Halo.

oh please, PLEASE don't let the army of little kids find this game, it could very easily turn this into a nightmare!!! or anygame for that matter

I think you missed the latest news about Black Ops.

the news about them copying brink after they noticed it's customization is popular?

Well, the game is more of a mix. XP = Fun for some. Fun has XP usually attached to it, cause you are playing the game. So, why not just say that they go hand in hand with the game, not so much one over the other? I mean, the developers have said on a Xbox Live Video that they want you to farm xp, mostly if you see it as fun. So, what the hell, just enjoy the game getting your XP or just enjoy the game and get XP as a bonus.

When you complete an objective, you get some kind of satisfaction. On top of that you get extra xp for doing so.
People who are more satisfied when they kill someone will probably go away after a while, because their playstyle doesn't get the same rewards and most of them will think it's "unfair".

It isn't copyright brink. They didn't steal it. It isn't even like Brink's. Nowhere near as awesome.

i know, but brink is the one advertising it's customizability atm.
and if they didn't get it from brink, then why wasn't there customization in modern warfare 2?
it was around a long time, brink is the first fps that went for customization without stats, and now they jump right at it with a next cod.
what a coincidence eh?