It is but I dont like underwater stuff in games anyway.

There is more than enough content in this game already and this if before mods and DLCs from Betheda

:D

I was a little bit dissapointed too. I was expecting full-fledged aquatic life, underwater dungeons or some kind of secret chests or other goodies. I literally swam down a whole river and a bunch of pools around the world expecting to find something and found it really boring. Mudcrabs, harvestable fish, the occasional piranha and the same old algae everywhere. Not to mention the underwater view is horrid.

Underwater caves/dungeons! They could make you need to invest in a water breathing potion, or actually make use of the water breathing enchantment.

It would be nice, although it is hardly the first TES game with little in the way of underwater activity (though I do like sunken ships, any sunken ships). Morrowind was probably the most fleshed out in this area, but even it was pretty sparse and you wouldn't have missed much if you never got your feet wet.

I guess since it is an area that not much can be done in unless you're playing an Argonian or have invested in the right magic or potion (and as they are limited duration...) to let you breath down there it wasn't a super high priority when it came to fleshing it out for exploration. Doesn't break immersion for me either since I guess I have no real reason to expect to find anything in the water except fish and water plants, both of which are there (though as I said before it would be nice if there was more, just it doesn't matter to much to me that there isn't)..

Every character, every single one, can adventure fully on land. Adventuring under water isn't something every character can do, at least not without a little preparation and forethought. Granted, it might not be too difficult to get ready for some time under water, but still.

It would be a nice option, but the land is more important. At a default the only thing that should logically be expected to exist in the water are aquatic animal life and plants, anything else is nice, but Bethesda has given us water with a minimum of what water should have (there always seems to be a lot of fish in mine).

You know the first time I saw salmon jumping up a waterfall I was thrilled. Still am. But then I remember how bad it was in MW and OB.

Seriously OP they improve something and all you can say is that it's not enough? Do they EVER put enough cheese on your cheeseburger?

You obviously never played Morrowind.


Will give it a shoot.
The problem is that, unlike Morrowind, I never felt a need to go underwater and explore.


I'm glad that people actually notice this!


Really?
I find fish tanks more interesting than Skyrim underwater world.
Also, if you even dunked your head in sea, you would notice how Skyrim underwater world was actually meh.


Agreed, but what I have issue with here is also lack of underwater exploration (I forgot to put that in the OP).
Of course it's pointless to have an awesome underwater world, but not have any motivation to actually go and explore it.
Underwater world as whole in Skyrim is kinda meh.
Yes, it's an improvement over Oblivion in some aspects, but still, it's not enough.
Also, having more interesting underwater world with places to explore and more creatures present, would actually give Waterbreathing spell a purpose (I never ever found myself in need of using it).


:lol:
Funny coincidence, but just the other day I wend on a cheeseburger with my friend and we were discussing how we were happy with the amount of cheese we have on it when compared to others.

There is SO much space out on the northern shores, islands even. Nothing at all to se out there. So much wasted space.

Perhaps they should put some hermit priests plagued by daedra? :v

Yes!

I'm still waiting for my Kollops and Grottos.

The mudcrabs look better, you say? Ah well that changes everything! Put the pitchforks down guys. False alarm.

/sarcasm

I agree, somewhat. I love the fact they've included fish and water plants (although all the plants seem to be the same species /nitpicking) but there's just... nothing to do down there! Even in Pilgrim's Trench -- maybe I've missed something, but the boats... is there supposed to be bugger all to do with them? I found a chest with some gold and barrels with food in. Is that it?

There's a massive amount of water to swim around in, but absolutely no reason for doing so.

What about the poor horkers? everyone seems to be forgetting about them.

Im sorry theres not enough flipping fish.

I've found a fair few chest and random things underwater, no complaints there, I am a bit sad that I haven't found any underwater caves or secret entrances, horkers kinda svck now too.

the fact that Argonians can breathe under water, is a pretty good reason to have more stuff under water - those guys get forgotten all the time. Personally I love exploring the water. I'm not really disappointed with it, but it would be nice to find more rare treasures and more sunken castles because I reckon I've found 90% of it already, compared to about 10% on land. Caves behind waterfalls would be cool.

And marine Rabbits

What exactly were Bethesda's priorities? People paid for the entire game, but only some of it is worth playing (assuming you can get past the poor interface and simplified design)

And foxes, goats or whatever feels like it, maybe we're not looking at the big picture, on the whole there are more animals in the water than ever :rofl:

Bah. Real fishermen aren't afraid to get wet. Ever wonder how Bears became so strong? By throwing away the poles and CATCHING THE FISH WITH THEIR BEAR HANDS! Duh!

Guess it doesn't matter for most people, but my number one favorite part of Morrowind was all its underwater content. Especially once all the crazy creatures and fish were added in through mods. Exciting underwater exploration has been on my top 5 most wanted things in an rpg ever since.

Both Skyrim and Oblivion are sorta a let down here, but its definitely not game destroying. I kept waiting for a killer whale to attack my roomate when he was swimming in the north ....alas nothing dangerous lurks in these northern waters.

Why not focus a little more on underwaterlife though? I mean just a couple dangerous monsters in a few waterways would make a huge improvement. Hell just make some sharks. Use same animations for slaughterfish. Add maybe an underwater Dreugh from Morrowind or something and were satisfied. However they really should have just said eff the 11/11/11 release date and released it in early 2012. I would wait a a few months for this game to get some more much needed polish. The game is fun but there is so much more they should have put in and fixed before releasing.

Really there is a distinct lack of monster variety in Skyrim imo period. It is nice that they made some monsters like the Draugr more varied but still there are what a couple troll-types, Ice wraiths, Giants, Dragons, Draugr, Dragon priests, Horkers, Spiders, Dwemer constructs, Falmer, Chaurus', and Atronachs. Sure...lots of animals, but not that many monsters. Why no ogres? Why no random Werewolves or werebears even prowling around? Or minotaurs? Dreugh? They were right at home in the Jerall mountains in Oblivion if cold and climate was an issue. Why no spectres/ghosts, regular zombies and liches(Dragon Priests kind of count I guess)? Undead would be fine in the cold. Why no Ogrim, Aurorans, Clannfears, Spider Daedra, the trademark SCAMP, Winged Twilights, Xivilai, Daedroth, Golden Saints, Dark Seducers, and all the daedra available as summons? Not like they stopped existing. We can still summon them from Oblivion lore-wise. Instead we got Atronachs,a spectral wolf and Dremora...really? I doubt all the mages from Oblivion onward forgot how to summon all those Daedra.

I would trade dragons for that

The Lore got a lot of big eff yous this time around and I don't like it very much. However life goes on. Somethings should stay in Cyrodiil sure but the above mentioned things would have no problem getting into Skyrim. With how close they were to the border in some cases they practically already were.

Great game and it has a lot of cool stuff but I and I am sure many others would trade a lot of those new features for the above critters being in the game and populating the world.

Very, very true.

There will always be one more thing that would be cool to be added, the fact you found something you wish a game had doesn't make the designers lazy for not sharing your idea. It's frankly more laziness on your part for not thinking this sort of thing through and just indulging in knee jerk responses like "game makers only want your money for as little effort possible".