Ok lets get the normal BS out of the way
1. I'm sorry if this has been posted before I did not find it.
2. I understand that all the gameplay footage and all the eurogamer threads are based on ALPHA BUILD, no reason to post it now.
3. My opinion on the matter is based on an unfinished game and previouse titles.

Sammuthegreat:
"I crept into Riverwood and stuck an arrow in her head, which didn't kill her (damn lack of location damage) - she knew where I was at this point so no bonus damage she started to crawl away begging for her life and moaning piteously; I followed her for a bit and eventually she got up and ran a short way before cowering for her life. I finished her off with an arrow in the behind."

In Oblivion when you fired an arrow into a NPCs face it would normally reappear in thier chest area if it did not kill them. I dont recall what would happen in Morrowind (been a while) but this kind of gameplay irritated me to no end. I for one was a HUGE Oblivion follower of the forums and loved to hear all the Bow combat info I could get! Arrows would bounce off rock, stick in wood and would appear in your foes body!?!?!? ZOMG thats AWESOME... well at least it sounded awesome untill you played it.

How many times did I instantly kill something but when examining the body the arrow was lodged in it's foot or hand leaving me with a "WTF?!" face? 10, 20 times maybe?
How many times did I fire an arrow into the back of a bandits head to have the SOB turn around with a "I see you! have at you!"

Well it's the dawn of a new TES, number 5. massive improvments to graphics! massive improvments to combat!, massive improvments to magic!, finishing moves!, better NPC dialouge!, in game marriage! (if your into that fable crap) and even DRAGONS and you are DRAGONBORN!!!!!.... oh but they yanked Body Location Damage and archery still has the EXACT... same... flaws from the previous title.

Yeah it's waaay to late for them to fix it but it's never to late for them to patch it or DLC it, hell I'll give them another $15 just to have them fix what they should have had in to begin with (Sounds like Bethesda DLC to a T right?)
I just wana know if anyone else feels the same way about it. Agian this is just my opinion of the matter and I respect yours if it's 180 just explain why please

It looks actually better, having to pull more instead of one fast movement of pulling back the string.

Yeah, the pin cushion syndrome is alive and still kicking.

I've seen your posts in some other threads and you seem really upset about this. I think it's exaggerating to call it "broken".

All it needs is locational damage, then it's fine.

But it's sort of strange that it wasn't added in in the first place. It definitely needs to be added as soon as possible, hopefully one of the first mods.

Bow and Arrows do a lot more damage than oblivion according to Todd and BGS. It's going to be a lot more useful this time around i think

Yup it's funny how they fixed that issue in Fallout 3 but then decided to just ditch locational damage again for no reason ^^

Actually no it's not funny at all ._.

Which is fine, since it's an "attack does X hit points of damage" RPG, and not a "BOOM! HEADSHOT!" FPS. :shrug:

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...by the way, all this "but they took out locational damage" that people keep talking about.... when did they ever say it was in? Or are you comparing Skyrim to Fallout 3, rather than Oblivion?

Yeah I would be a liar if I siad it wasnt my #1 on my VERY short list of thing I'm finding fault with in skyrim and maybe your right it is a little bit Drama Queen of me to call it broken but I do belive it needs and deserves attention

I would have to agree it looks loads better. I like how they have slowed the speed of the bow, I really like how it does more damage and arrows are a little more scarce to make up for the bows new power, I think it will improve greatly from Oblivion.

Been playing games like this for years with the same "issue," and while i agree its fixable, it's been around for so long for a reason. The game will be so tremendously life-consuming in it's awesomeness, I won't even notice. Even Red Dead Redemption, which had locational damage and Euphoria physics, still allowed the player to kill a person by shooting them in the foot 3 times. I can honestly say that i noticed that, obviously, but I can also honestly say that I seriously don't care that much. Sorry, it's been part of video game combat for so long it doesn't matter nearly as much as you think it does.

is Archery broken? how do you know?

TES isnt a FPS? It's played primarily from the 1st person view and you shoot magic and arrows.... kinda gona have to disagree with you, yes it is VERY much and RPG but it is still a FPS, I dont know why it cant be both, FO3 was a RPG and a FPS and it was awesome!

To be fair, the draw on the bow does look a little quick to me. But i'm not massively worried.

Its an RPG not a FPS...

This is not The Elde Scrolls V: Call of Duty. :facepalm:

This is The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim :tes:

Also are you joking if so :rolleyes: if not :facepalm: ...

not sure if serious

So if it's been around for a really long time no one should strive to fix it and it should just be accepted as thats the way it needs to be? kaaay

Also "is Archery broken? how do you know?"
I dont I even siad in my OP that my opinion is based off an unfinished game and previous titles but on that note how do you know it's not?

This.

Agreed.
To the people above: In a sense it kinda is an FPRPG since it's usually played in first person, and it's also an RPG, soooooo..... yeah. :spotted owl:
It's not an FPSRPG, I left the 'S' out, cause it's not a shooter unless it's a bow or something.

This isn't a major game-breaking issue for me, but I definitely would have preferred locational damage to be in rather than out. I'll definitely be looking forward to a Deadly Reflexes type mod for Skyrim though.

Oh my Deadra who even cares where the arrow sticks in the sprite.
For sake, why is it that peeople care so much about how things look but never what it does?
I wouldnt even care if there was never an arrow found on any body, and Daggerfall even had that.
As long as I knew that my 15% armour ignore ability or whatever was functioning.

:spotted owl: Hoot

The Owl agrees

I dont want it to be COD but if by COD you mean enemies react realisticly to having a 2 foot wooden shaft shoved through thier left eye then... yeah I gusse I would prefer COD over a very stupid looking guy with an arrow through his temple still chasing/fleeing from me...

Well, I actually agree with you. This time around I really thought they would have sorted locational damage, and before we found out it wasnt in I would have even bet alot if dosh that it would be in. It seems ludicrous to me that something they have already done and made work hasnt made it into their new game of the century.

No matter how or what you say, your in denial if you dont find this to be an almighty kick in the teeth.

I'll take you seriously when you read the post without mistakenly seeing it as an objection you should argue with.

There's probably a 90% chance it's in the finished product. The reason, as i said before, that the "issue" has been around so long, is that to people who don't get hung up on stupid [censored], a.k.a advlts, it doesn't detract from the game nearly as much as you think it will. You can have your opinions, I can have mine, blah blah blah. Fact of the matter: it's been around for so long, and hasn't been listed as a detriment to any game i've ever seen reviewed by anyone. Think about it.

Agian why is it such a chore to ask for both, why cant a game function like it should and not have insane visual eyesores? you act like I'm asking you people to choose between a great LOOKING game and a great ACTING game.