Or is Alduin a separate entity?. Because if they are one and the same, i'm having trouble believing we're going to try and kill the god of time.

In Nordic lore most likely.

However I don't think we know if the Alduin in game is the Alduin from legend.
It could be a Neverarine effect, a dragon looking to mantle Alduin.
Or just a dragon of great power pretending to be Alduin for the sake of personal gain.

I'll quote Michael Kirkbride:

"Don't forget that gods can be shaped by the mythopoeic forces of the mantlers-- so Tosh Raka could be an Akaviri avatar of Akatosh with a grudge against his mirror-brother in Cyrodiil.

Just like Akatosh-as-we-usually-know-him could time-scheme against his mirror-brother of the Nords, Alduin, to keep the present kalpa-- perhaps his favorite-- from being eaten.

Notice all the coulds."

I'm still rooting for the whole "Dragonborn as a mantler of Akatosh to stop Alduin"-explanation.

As I keep posting this same type of post-- I really hope it's a Lorkhan vs. Akatosh thing. I want Shor to see some revenge action for all the greedy et'ada.

Who says we're killing him? Dagon was the villain of Oblivion, but we certainly did not kill him.


I find that unlikely. Alduin eats the Mundus after a certain period of time, that's how it has happened in the past, I don't see why some other dragon would but necessary.


The Dragonborn is most likely a Shezzarine, Lorkhan-incarnate.

Yeah, I really hope that Lorkhan will have a role to play. The Nord revived him during the battle against the Dunmer, I think they could do it again.

I'm really not well versed in TES lore, but I understood that the way Bethesda have conceived it, anything that hasn't actually happened in one of the games falls into the territory of myth, legend and hearsay. In essence, any religious text, belief, myth or whatever could be stone hard truth, utter delusion or cynical misinformation. A daedra (or aedra) might start an entire false mythology in order to gather more worshippers; a historian might present a one-sided and jingoistic account of matters he/she didn't understand; a charismatic lunatic might write an intense and compelling fever-dream.

Have I got this wrong? And if not, does this business of Alduin eating the Mundus fall into the area of game-established fact, or the area of uncertainty?

My apologies if I'm babbling nonsense .

look here http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1152130-the-story-behind-skyrim-v20/

It is the same thing is the lore but slight differences due to different views. i have an akatosh tattoo just because i could and its fits in with skyrim :thumbsup:

So we don't know which one is really Alduin(Akatosh or the Akaviri leader). Or are they all Aduin at the same time?

I'm not that steeped in lore..... why does Alduin want to eat the world? Why can't he eat the moon or something, that should keep him full. So is Dagon the rightful owner of Nirn or something?:bonk:

My understanding is that each race views the Aedra in specific and unique fashions, based on the begining of the world and wars between Men and Mer.

However to stop this from getting to far into lore, we still don't know why Alduin, who / whatever it is is in Skyrim.
The videos have the voice over saying they're back, that legends spoke of them returning when Nords spilt their own blood, that one can stop them.
That is all we know now.
It makes no mention to world eating, the devs have passed comment that dragons may be destructivem and randomly so in their travels.
This however is not saying they seek to eat the world, just that they are attacking people for some reason.



The Nords are mixed up from ages ago, they don't despise / fear Lorkhan as most races do.
Rather they venerate him in the form of Shor.
Alduin is / has been a varient of their enemy the Mer, and also the rival of Shor / Lorkhan, Akatosh.
They see Alduin as a destroyer and a genitor.
The Genitor maybe from the fact that he gave himself to create Nirn.
The destroyer for he is both more elven in spirit ( their ancient rivals ) and the opposite of Shor, their more patron Aedra / daedra.

Think of the gods as perceptions. You have Aruiel, the mer perception of the god of time, is the high god of the mer, and hates Mundus. You then have Alduin, the nord perception of the time god, who is the creator and destroyer, because when something ends, a new thing begins. Then you have the Cyrodiils throwing everything out of whack by inventing their own god of time, known as Akatosh, who acts more as a preserver. As such, Auriel is Alduin is Akatosh is Auriel. I would like to note that the Cyrodiilic version of the god of time is nearly opposite of the other perceptions of the god of time. It should come to no surprise, as Akatosh was invented by Alessia as a political move.

Another well known god that has a similar treatment is Lorkhan/Shor/Shezarr. To the mer, they perceive him as an evil and malevolent trickster, who robbed everyone of their godhood. The nords see him as Shor, champion of men and beastfolk, his creation of Mundus was an act of divine mercy, and really hates mer. Then you have Shezarr, the Cyrodiilic version of Shor, except he's extremely Shor-lite. Talos then took over the position of Shezarr, as Shezarr was forgotten from the Cyrodiilic pantheon.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/01/06/translating-the-cover.aspx

Alduin, bane of kings
Ancient shadow unbound
With a hunger to swallow the world

It's obvious that Alduin's goal is to eat the world. What the dragon's purpose in his plan is yet to be explained.