And if they did, then fire breathing dishes would become mundane. I think people are envisioning the first dragon fight rather than the tenth in a session.


I don't know about you, but when I pick up my guitar I don't expect to have a huge emotional high just from practicing. If you want dragon fights to be awesome every time then it's probably better to make them a rarity. You can have too much of a good thing.

If they turn out to be the Skyrim version of Cliff Racers I'll be very sad. :shakehead:

You have to kill a Dragon First in order to obtain the Dragon shout . :>

And btw... I remember seeing the dragon being killed by a sword, not by a dragon shout. So wherever you guys are getting this dragon shout thing is beyond me. :poke:

sorry if I don't take what I see from a trailer literally. this trailer doesn't confirm any thing about dragons except what they will look like (and what dragon shouts will look like), the trailer was made to be exciting so of course the fight with the dragon would look like an epic hand to hand battle. but is that practical? are we really going to be GODS in SK that can fight and kill dragons with hardly any armor aand a typical sword. that would be just as disapointing if we could only kill dragons with dragon shouts.

With rank's there are 60 shout's .. so i would'nt expect more than 100 Dragon's in the game.

Possibly dragons have weak spots? Considering a dragon is a tough enemy to kill, perhaps it's belly is a soft spot so the sword essentially gutted him? He (the dragon) looked fine before that blow and then he collapsed into the ground.

thats possible, maybe they've fine tuned the individual body part thing from FO3 (ie: arms, legs, torso,etc... have their own health.) so its certainly possible, even likely, that dragons will have a weak point.

all I said was that I have a looming feeling.... then what I said about dragon shouts. so I kinda laughing at my computer as a bunch of people are freaking out as if I had just declared dragon shouts THE way to kill dragons. its no more than a sinking feeling, and the worst case scenario imo. (If I am right I'll try and avoid dragons as much as possible since they'll be no fun at all, not to mention RP breaking) we won't know the truth until we see it. And I doubt they'll show game play futage of dragon fights since thats something they want to keep in the dark (at least to keep as many people excited about dragons as possible since no matter how it turns out groups of people will be let down.)

So you are denying that the trailer was in-game footage of a dragon fight? Is that what you are saying? That despite Bethesda employees saying it isn't scripted and that is a dragon fight from the game, that it isn't really a dragon fight?

My thinking is good luck trying to hack away at a dragons back....see you in a year. And the dragon fight was UNSCRIPTED. That was an actual fight with an actual dragon, they just recorded it from an outside angle to promote dramatics.

Holy crap, an actual dragon?

And they killed it???

Yeah man, I would know. I was there.

lol. just like radiant AI footage was unscripted... please. so your saying we can levitate!? or should we ignore the several impossible camra angles from mid air. this is clearly not 100% gameplay footage. beth has stretched the truth and flat out lied before.

You apparently have no knowledge of the fact that they have access to command line interface and can make camera angles. Perhaps their new construction set allows them to work on the game while it's running? Honestly, I don't think BGS would have lied about it, they have no reason to lol.

I'm not, think about it. Every dragon fight will happen in different locations (most likely) and thus you've got different terrain to deal with, different weapons, playstyles, magic, archery, other creatures nearby etc. all factor in. Each fight has the potential to be completely unique.

Wow...just...wow. Have you not seen a single machnima in your life? Have you never played a game with a spectator mode or a free camera toggle? All of those angles are easily accessible with a single console command, it won't be as fluid when you do it with a mouse and keyboard, but it's absolutely doable. How exactly they did it I don't know, I wasn't there and I don't know how the updated engine works. What I do know is that those camera angles are not enough to dismiss this trailer.

MORE DRAGONS!!!!! I am actually tired of always hearing about how "dragons are extinct" or "Dragons? I haven't seen one in years" or "the dragons were a thriving race, but that was centuries ago." I think it will be refreshing to be able to see a bunch of dragons and kill all of them. fun stuff for sure!

the same could be said of this. CS had nothing to do with this considering the trailer was based on console (360 is what is being said) gameplay and every one should know that CS is not on consoles. they could use command lines but that proves that it was scripted (considering in actual gameplay command line interface is impossible)

and BGS has no reason to lie? most obvious reason: get every one super excited. they have lied before that is known. like I said, radiant AI.

Yeah, and every NPC was 'unique' in Oblivion. The tech just doesn't exist yet to make dragon fights varied enough to truly demand a diverse enough playstyle from one to the other to keep us entertained for four hours with sixteen encounters.

I think you guys are missing the point here...there's more to SK than dragons. If all you do is run around looking for dragons, I guarantee it'll get old fast. The same can be said if you're trying to grind acrobatics and stand there jumping for four hours. If you mix it up in the game, do some questing, explore towns, talk to NPC's, go in dungeons, the dragon fights will still be fun because they won't become completely mundane.

Yeah and the problem is when the game doesn't let you mix it up enough to stay fresh because dragons are so bloody common.

I wasn't aware you got to play the game. I'm jealous.

what comes to mind (obviously) is cliff racers. which sometimes appeared three at a time. I just don't see fighting more than one at a time.

I think there's a bit of a difference between dragons and cliff racers, lol. Hopefully dragons will fight each other if the player finds two of them and hides. That would be interesting. And mirglof, I believe in the podcast it was mentioned you can run into multiple dragons.

Speculation, dude. Shall we just get rid of the forums since all discussion is pointless if we haven't played the game?

Yes.
They are going to be a chore.
Terribly, terribly tedious and chore-like.

Best not buy the game.
/end sarcasm

:banghead:

I think its gonna be awesome