So we have confirmation that the dragon fight seen in the recent trailer is dynamic gameplay. It was pretty awesome - nobody is disputing that. And it was pretty climactic.

But if dragons are not rare as we have been led to believe then won't these fights get somewhat tiresome?

It was bad enough having to get off one's horse to whack a wolf in Oblivion. If the game thrusts a dragon fight upon us every fifteen minutes (if I remember correctly the Scandinavian journalist said that they encountered about four dragons in an hour) and uses music, difficulty and the aesthetics of the dragon to try to make it seem epic, are we not just going to become numbed to what should be amazing boss fights? Are they simply going to become irritating waiting periods for the dragon to come within range so that you can slay it without much thought and move on, only to be stopped by another one around the corner? Sort of like our best friends from Morrowind?

I have faith in BGS, but I'm worried about a disastrous mash up between Oblivion gates and cliff racers manifesting as plentiful dragons.

Sources, since hyperlinks aren't working and butchered my post >.>
http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/83732/more-skyrim-details-graphics-world-dragons - plentiful dragons
http://dwip.arthmoor.com/images/mw/MKAcr.jpg - our best friends from Morrowind
http://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/40799803394756608 - dynamic dragon slaying confirmation

I see no issue with that. I wouldn't mine a ton of dragons but I don't think theyre going to get to the cliff racer level. Dragons have always been insanely territorial, if there was too many of them they would end up just fighting each other. We never had that issue in Morrowind or Oblivion. Cliff racers and daedra never fought each other but I can see dragons doing it. I'm sure the dragon encounter percentage is relatively low.

EDIT* BGS probably increased the dragon spawn percentage for the journalist to give him more info to write about.

are u spamming? post one topic please.

It was an accident.

i thought oblivon gates got annoying after 10, but maybe dragon fights will be varied enough to be fun thru the whole game. As long as you don't have to grind dragons toward the end, like the plot demands you slay another 20 dragons to continue

No - i think exciting and epic - because they're unscripted ,,also i assume that they will hang around area's, much like mountain top's ect... so potentially i guess you could go a long while without seeing any; unless you activley sought them out , or a quest takes you in their vacinity .

I'm very worried about the whole dragon thing. It will probably be implemented brilliantly, but there's a little niggle in the back of my mind that wonders if the same devs responsible for the "Lord of the Rings is cool! Let's copy it." nature of Oblivion have been thumbing through the Generic Fantasy Handbook again.

Nah, Oblivion gates were a chore, epic fights to the death with dragons is more like the perfect form of recreation.

I just don't get Bethesda sometimes...

"Hey guys we heard you didn't like cliffracers so we made them bigger and harder to kill!"

Please check my sources. They are not rare.


They won't stay epic for long if they're routine, though. And they won't be very life threatening if you get used to them.

the trailer seems very apparent that the only way to kill dragons is with a dragon shout. I don't know if that will be hard or repetitive, but to me it means that killing them with normal weapons is impossible (or we need to do so to weaken them enough to finish them with a dragon shout? that is too much like arcade fighting games if you ask me.)

Cliffracers are EPIC

It doesn't make that apparent at all. For all we know, that Dragon shout just increased Dovahkiin's strength which allowed him to cut through the scales. I don't think you need to use a dragon shout, that would be obnoxious.

There are several fundamental differences between doing the dishes and fighting a dragon. Dishes normally don't breathe fire to name one.

I never pick up a controller or a guitar and say "Oh [censored] it, not this crap again", and yet I do those things multiple times every day, routine isn't always bad, it just depends on your idea of fun. And regarding the threat level of dragons, if they get too easy I can always pump up the difficulty.

So because he just happened to use a dragon shout to kill ONE dragon, you think it's the only way to kill it?

Yea i know, i can see where you're coming from , and you're concern... But it dosn't change my thoughts , that i think they will congregate around specific spots.
And im sure that Beth wont make the same mistke as Cliffracer's/Ob gates.

And Todd prolly said Dragon's are common , coz he probably thought that's what ppl want to hear :>

Apparently they weren't trying to demonstrate what a dragon shout would look like. no siree

I'm not sure which video you saw, but in the one I saw the death-blow was delivered by a sword. From my understanding combat with dragons is going to be a balenced mix between shouts and your preferred form of combat.

Clearly not. That would just be awful.

but if we can kill dragons with out dragon shout all that will make them is a big version of other enemies with lots of health, they have to know they'll get scores of compliants for doing that to dragons. there has to be some unique way to fight them that separates a battle against a dragon from that of a battle with a lesser beast. so what new kind of weapon/fighting style do they also release along with dragons... dragon shouts. there you go.

besides, they've said things before (when talkign about dragon shouts) , which suggested dragon shouts would have something to do with dragons.

The dragons are my biggest concern as well, especially that they are not rare.

When I first heard dragons were in I was hoping there would only be very few and that fighting one would be almost certain death. The fight in the vid looked awesome, but staged. I too hope the dragon fights don't become a monotonous part of the game.

Seeing moments in the trailer where the player slashed and bashed the dragon in the head, to me doesn't seem like it would be boring. At least it won't be like OB hack and slash. If you don't want to fight them, run! Hell, you see the part where the player was running?? Run away into the woods, or in a cave and sleep there for the night. As for repetative gameplay, I seriously doubt that with what we have seen.

Really...? Dragon shouts will be connected to dragons? :facepalm: You get new dragon shouts , or parts of them, from dragon souls. Dragons bleed, it felt pain from his sword, it can be killed with a sword.

A) DRAGON shouts have nothing to do with DRAGONS.
B) Dragon shouts are command words from the language of the dragons, it was mentioned in GI magazine.
C) The difference between dragons and most enemies is this: dragons fly, dragons breathe fire.
D) Dragons are just powerful enemies really. That's all they should be aside from Alduin.