Not quite.

Yes Shezzar does show up in mortal form to help man...however the way he behaves when he shows up cuts him out clearly from the rest. wulfharth for instance was a Shezzarine...the man was killed at red mountain but magically resurrected himself from pure ashes...imagine that. As long as his mission is not complete, the Shezzarine does not leave the world.

When Tiber Septim died, he was dead. never came back in mortal form

Wulfharth was also Ysmir (that is, a dragon). Reviving them is easy if you know the right shout, which Shor probably does as Wulfharth does not initially return until Shor does revive him himself. He also displays no Shezarrine like qualities until Red Mountain (i.e, after Shor revived him), which makes me question his status as a Shezarrine because Shezarrine's are incarnate.

Pelinal was also dead dead (well, for the most part), along with Hans the Fox, and others that appeared throughout the history of Tamriel. What Silent also said.

*Conspiracy Theory*
Bear with me here, but what if.... WHAT IF, all the dragonborn... WERE THE SAME GUY. Like maybe everytime he dies the divines just take his soul, and wait until he is needed. At which point they would just plop it into a new body like any other soul.

Not that much of a stretch, and it could be possible.

Could Arngeir/Esbern be the Arctus this time or is that pushing it?

Arctus is most likely player himself. Mannimarco stated that Arctus was in same line of heroes such as Pelinal, Wulfarth etc etc etc. whom pops up at time of need and vanishes when deed is done. This is what player does.

Yeah that is only one statement from maggot lord Mannimarco, so it could be flawed in many ways. But i like it.

[censored] it We're all Shezzarines. the nerevarine was a padomaic why not a shezzarine

I thought he was talking about how Arctus was Ysmir because they were both Underking.

Could be. Here's the text:

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/where-were-you-when-dragon-broke


Pelinal and Arnand (Hans?) the Fox are mentioned and i think both of them are archetype of Dawn Hero. I could be wrong too.

Interesting but there can be more than one dragonborn at the same time. Even in skyrim there could be another one that dosen't know his soul or is keeping it a secret. So I doubt your theory is true.

Are we Talos?

Dovahkiin = Ysmir = Tiber Septim / Wulfharth = Talos / Shor = Lorkhan

Talos = Zurin Arctus / Wulfharth / Tiber Septim / Hjalti Early Beard = Shezarr = Shor / Auri-El

Summary: Dovahkiin is an avatar of the aspect of both Padomay / Anu, the Gray Maybe or better yet- The All-Maker/Godhead (you/the developer).
He or she symbolises Auri-El, Talos, Shor, Shezarr. Or simply Ysmir, the Dragon of the North. Dovahkiin is the figure head of Ruptga, creating the
way of the Walkabout (elder scroll?) to out live Satakal (Alduin). I sense some sort of underlining statement in this.. as if the developers are saying:

"Without Ysmir (the paying player) then Alduin (destruction or bankruptcy) will consume everything (the developer's mind) and no walkabout (elder scroll games) will be achieved."

Which is odd, because this is likely their most publicly acknowledged game.

Actually, that was a journalist's mistake. I asked on twitter after that came out a while back, they aren't doing a full on continutiy reboot, at least not anytime soon. Also that would just be a stupid thing to do.


But they mixed later on, didn't they? Or something. They were part of a unit by the end, along with Zurin Arctus.

I don't think each one needs to be the same as the last one, as long as we have all the major parts spread over three people. Hjalti was the Dragonborn last time around, but he was also the rebel, who is Ulfric this time around (and note he asks for the Dragonborn to kill him/Tullius. He is a smarter man than he lets on, I think) and later the Ruling King (whose position of authority, if not title, is neatly filled by Tullius).

All the parts are there, they're just mixing differently from last time. I would expect, whichever ending winds up coming out the temporal soup, that the victor of Ulfric or Tullius will display a startling tendency to be credited with the actions of the Dragonborn at times and to seem to be at multiple major events that happened at the same time.

Dovahkiin can be swapped with Nerevarine, CoC, The Agent, The Battlemage, The Champion etc. it's a basic preset to state that
without us buying more Elder Scrolls games, there won't be anymore Elder Scrolls games. An extremely simple idea for something so hidden.
However it could be a suggestive marketing ploy for the perceptive, yet weak minded of souls. Or maybe I'm overthinking this, which is highly probable.

Yeah. One part of this whole Talos/lorkhan-thing is mystery, that we can't say what happened with Hjalti and CO, and that we can't say what happened in Skyrim. If we could say what happened in detail there would not be mythical event of mantling, there would be just mere known facts without mystery = Talos would not be. As above so below.

This is why for consistency of lore we can't have just one way of things in Skyrim but there has to be various versions how things play out. And for same reason we just can't slot them into appropriate roles as we don't want to unmake Talos, Do we?