They want to eradicate an entire race just for doing what comes naturally to them.

That is like killing every wolf in the world for killing deer.

Your thoughts?

Well in my opinion, it's like the civil war you choose the lesser of two evils. Sure dawnguard want to kill people who have no choice but to feed on people but at the same time, the vampires want to block out the sun. So again it's the lesser of two evils

Humans are arrogant, everything's natural till it involves humans dying then it's somehow a crime against nature. Personally I think the whole human race is a crime against nature, but lets not get off topic. They see the Vamps as non human thus killing them is as easy as putting down a dog. But the dehumanisation of Vampires is prevalent wherever you go, it's not JUST a bad quality of the Dawnguard. Personally I see Vampirism as a gift, though I can see how others would see it as a curse. In which case are many vampires not victims? I see Molag Bal as the TRUE villain in all of this. But then again? Does he not need souls to maintain his power? What is a daedric Prince without power, but prey for the rest of them. Meruhnes Dagon for instance would take pride in crushing him in an instant if he could. Good and evil are always subjective. Harkon never saw his plan to blot out the sun as evil, he saw it as saving his race. Similarly Isran sees eradicating the Vampire Menace as saving his. It's up to you to decide which is better. It's really all relative

It's a matter of perspective. In the eyes of some, Vampires are perverse abominations created by the whim of a demonic Daedric Prince who raqes women...and probably men, Molag probably doesn't discriminate...

Harkon was [censored] by Molag bal and Vivec..none are safe.

And Vivec? That's a fanfic I'd rather not read.

Its actually canon..it was in a book in Morrowind, i forget the name at the moment..

not really, its more like deer killing every wolf to save their deer brethren, but not even like that. Its like a deer demon/god thingie cursed/warped deer into drinking the blood of other deer, and the normal deer killing off the evil blood drinking deer.

To summarise it: good and evil is subjective to one's point of view.

As humans, a majority of us would be sympathetic to the dawnguard's ideals, because it's relateable.
However both groups have their nice or bad qualities. As well, they both want to achieve similar aims.

But from an outside, observational or devil's advocate voyiurism, it could be said the dawnguard were worse.
While the volkihar wish to just peak their curse above the rest, the dawnguard desire to completely annihilate them.

Eh, so one attains inequality, the other a purge. Hmmm, what's worse though? death or eternal torture?
Again, this looks to be corrupted by one's view point. The morality of the question is answered in Dawnguard.

Not really, certain books can be contradicted by other books or characters. Serana and Harkon mention only Molag Bal as the creator of vampires and violator of women. Since serana, Harkon and velarica have a first hand account of what molag bal does, I believe them more than a book written by someone could have had limited knowledge and lets not forget that the denizens of morrowind stupidly believe some actual evil daedric princes to be good such as boethiah or whatever name was.

Dawnguard like other vampire hunters are a bit overzealous but think about this...what is currently happening? vampire attacks, vigil of stendarr slaughtered and there are plans to blot out the sun etc. The dawnguard reformed for a reason.

Vampires are not really evil though, it depends on the person and not what they are but some do go feral and wild or let the power go their head.

Isran is another Three Dog / Nasir. Just having that voice actor pits my dislike for the Dawnguard to start with. That and the character is a torturing extremist fanatic. So, yes...they are all evil, for one reason or another.

But this is like all other observations on the subject...it's opinionated.

Correction. Harkon wants to block out the sun.

actually Harkon sacrificed 1000 souls to become a pure-blood.

By blocking out the sun people will no longer need sun block.

Daedric princes are not evil there just indifferent so the dunmer thinking boethiah as good is not really dumb.

The dawnguard is the lesser of two evils.

Actually a good portion don't care, they are just following Harkon's orders.



Daedra are neither good nor bad, the concept of evil and good doesn't apply to them since its a mortal concept and they live in a higher plane of existence, also Boethiah isn't really evil if it weren't for him the Dunmer wouldn't have the house system and ebony wouldn't have been made into armor or weapon thus not giving Morrowind its financial power in trading minerals like ebony and glass.

Now back to the real question, I'd say yes and no. The vampires are just trying to survive and most really have no choice in the matter of being a vampire but the problem is there are vampires who embrace the gift too much and go mad with bloodlust and will attack anything they see or enthrall them while the Dawnguard just want to protect their own races but I think that persecuting all Vampires unless they help the dawnguard and later cure themselves is kind of stupid.

Yes, especially adolf isran.

Damm the VIGILIANTS (kill all who don't follow the light) thinks he is to extreme....

If by what comes naturally you mean blocking out the sun and preying on humans potentially making them slaves.

It depends on your outlook of it I suppose, if you are a Vampire, anyone that tries to kill you or any of your species can be deemed evil.

If you are Dawnguard, anything that preys on your species is Evil and must be eradicated.

It depends on your faction alignment and what you deem as evil.

You could consider all Vampires evil because of what they do and how they came into the elder scrolls world.

Not all of the vampires wanted to block out the sun, it was only Harkon. Most didn't care if they lived in the shadows or not.

I interpreted it differently. I thought that Isran is actually what the Vigilantes claim to be, while the actual order talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.

True. I give the Dawguard props on that front. I could go into the Vigilants base, and hop up and down wielding all manner of Daedric gear and no one gives a damn.

T'was a spear training book, if I'm not mistaken.

Molag and Vivec for 80 days straight, I think.