I can't comprehend why people are/ could be against the idea of Skyrim having a hardcoe option.


Why I think it should be implemented:

• Skyrim is intended to be a rugged, and harsh environment. The need for warmth, food, water, and rest could add to the danger of this land.
  
• This mode would be optional, so those who do not want to use it do not have to, and those who do will be able to use it. Everybody wins.
  
• This mode wouldn't take too much effort to create, however it would add a wonderful amount of realism to this game if implemented correctly.
  
• This mode would give a reason to eat food in this game, and use inns for their intended purpose: to provide shelter and rest from the harsh outside.

If you have some good reasons why it shouldn't even be available as an option, please post them.
Avoid flaming, and initiating the dreaded console war.
Please be considerate towards console users, who are otherwise unable to mod this into the game.

I think it just takes up space, just to have a few extra stats that only annoy you. If they do add it, they shouldn't make a trophy/achievement where you have to have it on.

Each of the dozens of polls on this seems to show a consensus that the majority of forum members are in favor of an optional hardcoe/survival mode.

Count me in.

Most people on the forums want one, although I'm not sure the average fan would ever play it.


hardcoe mode is really just for hardcoe fans. That being said, I want it .

I don't hate it, but I won't use it so I wouldn't want Bethesda to spend time developing it.

I apologize if this has already been covered, I really want this to be implemented into Skyrim,
and I think that if enough people are vocal enough about it, Bethesda will at least consider it.

I don't hate it completely, but I just don't really see why it's necessary in Skyrim... it's kinda pointless. In Fallout it works because survival in harsh conditions is key to the gameplay, but it's not like in Skyrim there's a scarcity of food and water or anything like that.

imo that would be a a fun and challenging thing in skyrim

i mean think about it, what is the point of eating besides the small effects it gives you, Now inns, you should get a sleeping bonus like in FO3, sleep for 8 hr and get a well rested bonus XP. same thing goes for houses

I see no reason to not include it really. It's a purely optional feature for those who want an extra layer of challenge in their game. No one is forcing you to play hardcoe mode.

Though if it is included, I hope Bethesda optimizes it for Skyrim rather than just a straight port from F:NV. Skyrim, while not exactly safe, is far from the irradiated wasteland of the fallout games. A more lenient food and water system would be nice, as would a fatigue system based on how many actions you do rather than an arbitrary clock.

I am not against a hard core mode, or option. I would like to know more about specific details involved in such an option.

However, I am of the opinion, that a well designed and thoroughly thought out game should not need it.

I would rather have no choice to turn it off than not have it at all.

I'm in favor of a collection of optional and individual settings that together might allow one to incrementally tailor the game's 'hardcoe' realism to their own liking, but I don't want them all bundled together into a single 'mode' setting.

yes, it adds more immersion.

I'll say yeah, because in Fallout NV I use hardcoe to have fun and make stuff on the fires and things, as most of them are completely useless outside hardcoe mode. If they make this mode and an achievement i'll definitely get it within my first 3 characters.

Though most of the time on NV it seemed more of a chore and annoyance rather than being "Real".... Still support.

@those who are against it on the premise of they wouldn't use it:

So because you may not use axes, axes should be removed?
Or should axes remain simply because it makes sense to have, and to provide more options?

The hardcoe Mode could be as simple as you start to hear a grumbling stomach when you're hungry,
and your vision starts to get worse when you're dehydrated, starving or exhausted.
There needs to be more than just a bar that starts to get depleted the more hungry you are:
like audio and visual cues.

Stop asking for more options, please. I don't want http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv175/Proditus/Unnecessary.jpg. If you want to play Skyrim on hard, just turn the difficulty all the way up and fight without any armor or weapons on.



That's a terrible excuse.

I thought it was a great idea when I saw it in NV. I didnt like it when I was playing.(i wanted more options and I didnt like the timing) But its a great freaking idea. I would love to see it fleshed out more. Heck, I will be honest, I may never use it. But it definitely adds to the RP and immersion side of things. Which is why I want them to implement it in someway.

There are plenty of things in Skyrim that I will probably never do.(except when I will be doing a demo of the game to friends and family) I seriously doubt I will ever SWEEP anything in Skyrim unless part of a quest.(running or working in a store perhaps) But Im glad its in. The more freedom, the more opportunities to RP the better.

Shasow, if you don't have anything meaningful to say, please don't spam this thread.

Sorry, didn't know I couldn't say I don't want hardcoe options.

personally, i'd never play with that style of hardcoe. but it would be nice to have it as an option for those who like that sort of thing.

I don't think anyone is against options, it just happens to be that many people in favor of hardcoe mode when talking about it don't speak of options. They speak of that being how the game should be without respect for people who play games for fun, not realisim.

This is one of the reasons why a hardcoe mode would be best handled by a mod. A well-designed mod with a .ini configuration file would allow extensive customization so that a player may pick or choose what they want in the mod, how it is timed, and what effects it has if one doesn't eat or whatever.

I am in favour of a hardcoe Mode, and hope it is much much harsher than the one in FNV.

I'm against such options. Options should stick to general settings (graphics, controls, volume, resolution, etc.) and not every single little detail.

The way you worded the sentence I was referring to, the way I interpreted it, was:

"Don't express your ideas, [insert exaggeration], because I don't want it, no one should be able to have it."