Are vampires in The Elder Scrolls undead?

Post » Thu May 05, 2011 6:53 pm

Not that it sheds any light on the process, but it seems that there is a difference between http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooke_Greenberg. So if real life has any bearing on this matter, I'd imagine that parts of the child would stay new and pristine (like their bones never hardening, making them more pliable but less strong), but the child would grow and hit puberty and whatever growth process TES children undergo (the infamous invisible-and-insubstantial stage still baffles magicians to this day.)

Maybe they grow, and whn puberty hits, they stop aging. Being stuck at eighteen or something, perhaps.
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Post » Fri May 06, 2011 2:40 am

I have a hard time seeing how two vamps could make a child. Vampirism, practically, halts growth, so how would someone grow up if they're born from the union of 2 vamps? A non-vamp and vamp worked, but it may have to do mostly with the non-vamp.

Also, couldn't it be possible to receive the vamp disease from six? Molag Bal passed it on like a bad STD to the blood matron.
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Post » Thu May 05, 2011 5:42 pm

I have a hard time seeing how two vamps could make a child. Vampirism, practically, halts growth, so how would someone grow up if they're born from the union of 2 vamps? A non-vamp and vamp worked, but it may have to do mostly with the non-vamp.

Also, couldn't it be possible to receive the vamp disease from six? Molag Bal passed it on like a bad STD to the blood matron.

Molag Bal did [censored] Lamae, but I'm not sure that the magic's of Molag Bal's [NUMMIT] were transferred to Lamae. While Lamae did [censored] a bunch of people, it doesn't specify she used [censored] as vehicle for transmission.

edit: wow, that's censored now?

As for vamps having children, I think the real linchpin to this would be the mother. If anyone's going to transmit the disease to the offspring, the mother would. As for the aging thing, if the mother was a vampire and passed the disease on to the child, I'm not sure the child could properly come to term, even if the mother got preggers.
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Post » Thu May 05, 2011 2:23 pm

It is a disease, and if it's able pass through blood and saliva, I can easily see that it can also be passed through six.

In short, I still stand that vampirism is a STD.
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Post » Thu May 05, 2011 1:50 pm

It is a disease, and if it's able pass through blood and saliva, I can easily see that it can also be passed through six.

In short, I still stand that vampirism is a STD.

Maybe, the relevant pathogens (STD's) also tend to be more common in [NUMMIT] fluids than saliva.
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Post » Thu May 05, 2011 10:05 pm

I highly suspect that the vamp disease is prevalent in all bodily fluids.
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Post » Thu May 05, 2011 7:50 pm

I have a hard time seeing how two vamps could make a child. Vampirism, practically, halts growth, so how would someone grow up if they're born from the union of 2 vamps? A non-vamp and vamp worked, but it may have to do mostly with the non-vamp.

Also, couldn't it be possible to receive the vamp disease from six? Molag Bal passed it on like a bad STD to the blood matron.


I would agree with it more than likely having to mostly do with the non-vampire. I may make the argument regarding Vampires being living, but I cannot surmise that two individuals with the 'virus' can have children. I would think of it something like a rare and inherited disorder, so genetics would play a part (or a TES Equivalent, which does clearly exist). Something like cystic fibrosis, if you know the % and how inheriting it works (odd of the child having it). So, the parents will carry the gene, and if two people come together that have it, they perhaps won't be able to have children because the genetic code can't mix, and even if a baby was conceived, it would be miscarried at some point. This is where the non-vampire parent comes in. Now, granted I said an inherited disease, I wasn't specifically referring to a baby being born with it, just using it as an example for genetics and how it would work.

At any rate, trying to be more coherent now... If we, hypothetically, assume two vampires can have children... How would they eat? I do not know how mums feed newborns in TES.

I want to say, stating as fact albeit opinion, that two vampires cannot have children. A vampire and non-vampire can have children. It may be plausible for a half-vamprie and vampire to have children, and two half-vampires may be able to have children.

About the claims of being sterile and the fact we know of at least one half-vampire offspring, so that pretty much changes things.
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Post » Thu May 05, 2011 12:37 pm

I have a hard time seeing how two vamps could make a child. Vampirism, practically, halts growth, so how would someone grow up if they're born from the union of 2 vamps? A non-vamp and vamp worked, but it may have to do mostly with the non-vamp.

Also, couldn't it be possible to receive the vamp disease from six? Molag Bal passed it on like a bad STD to the blood matron.

Hmmm. I'm feeling a bit under the weather. I think I've got something, I should nip on over to my nearest temple and get someone to Cure my Common Disease, just in case.
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Post » Thu May 05, 2011 2:31 pm

It can be possible through Daedric blessing. C.V altered the Cyrodilic bloodline, he can do something about vampire children if the proper pact is made ;)
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Post » Thu May 05, 2011 2:46 pm

I'll be really disappointed if the Vampires in Skyrim don't live under lakes of solid ice the way they're depicted in the in-game books in Cyrodill.
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Post » Fri May 06, 2011 3:22 am

"I saw a woman who was holding a baby. When I came closer, I realized her face was bloated and purple, just like the child, then it turned to ash in the wind," ~Morrowind Vampiric Dream

See that for what your baby would look like.
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Post » Fri May 06, 2011 12:41 am

"I saw a woman who was holding a baby. When I came closer, I realized her face was bloated and purple, just like the child, then it turned to ash in the wind," ~Morrowind Vampiric Dream

See that for what your baby would look like.

That was just a nightmare. It's a mystery to how a pureblooded vampire would age. It's mind boggling.
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