I'm sorry but, the more and more post I read of Meek's, the only thing I get out of any of them is "I'm a woman, I have a hard life because men are dogs, all men are the same, and no one can ever have personal preferences based solely off of themselves, and all men are blinded by what media wants a woman to look like, please feel sorry for my six".

Wow, I have no idea where you could come up with that as it could not be further from the truth and I can only assume that was intended to get some sort of rise from me. :shakehead:

Nope, no rise from you expected. That's genuinely the message I get from reading your post. Especially the post that you replied to me with. You seem to be unable to agree that some men don't act that way, and that it's possible for a man to not like a shaved crotch because "that's what hollywood says".
You also only quoted the first half of my post, which further makes me wonder. What is your response to the second half of my last post?

My answer to the second part of your post is to refer you to my second last post which to all appearances you skimmed over. Like Third Eye you are completely ignoring what I said and twisting it into something it is not, in order to get a rise. Reread my posts carefully, all the answers are there.

Sorry but that's incorrect. You don't seem to be able to see things from the point of view of someone who sees things differently.
I've read your post in this thread, all of them, and everyone else's too. That's what I gather from it.

We are damned if we do complain, and damned if we don't. :shrug:

If you have come to that completely erroneous conclusion then there is not much I can do or care to do about it. :shrug: I am not going to keep banging my head against a brick wall, your opinion is your own and good luck with it.

You blatantly stated a few pages back that a man cannot prefer a shaved crotch on their own will or preference,

Actually yes. Before shaving women's legs was introduced the 'norm' was unshaved and that is what men found attractive and I assure you that they would have found shaven legs very unattractive and if you were a man who prefered shaved legs you would have been considered wierd. Probably also a pervert to like legs of a woman as hairless as a child's. It is entirely about perception and when your perception is manipulated, in this case by media and peers, then your ideas and ideals change. That is a fact that can be traced easily over the past 100 and more years.

Before the 1920's the idea of a woman showing her ankles and god forid, knees, was possitively shocking to society. How was that mindset changed? Media portraying pictures of the latest fashion. The younger generation got caught up into this new 'cool' thing and if you disagreed then peer pressure would sort you out or you would be considered wierd and an outcast. Voila, a generation of flappers with the daring litle dresses. All ready to pass their beliefs over to the next generation..



You don't have to watch porm to become a part of the latest 'expectation' and trend. If you had never heard of women removing the hair from their crotches before, then your opinion would be different. This 'trend' has gone viral, supported by media, peers. However it is the truth that this originated when porm stars started doing it in order to make more viewable areas for the camera. Some expletive decided this was a good thing (probably worked for gillette) and wham suddenly magazines are advertising this or that product to remove the hair from your crotch, people are talking about it, it is portrayed in characters in film and television and ads. People who don't do it are mocked on television and wham the mindset is complete. A new generation of girls that believe that guys will laugh at them and think them unattractive if they don't remove the hair from their crotches and a generation of guys used to this and now considering the alternative repulsive. Refer to my very long last post for more on that.

So what has occurred is yet another 'expectation' for women and we move even further away from our natural bodies. All so companies can sell more cosmetics, clothes and other products. My personal opinion of removing the hair from your crotch is that I find it extremely repulsive and extremely unsixy. It looks like a child's crotch and that just sickens me. I can't think of anything more unattractive. Pubic hair is natural, a sign of advlthood and a mature woman and I draw the line at the latest trend for me personally.

This is so recent. Women shaving was prevalent only in western civilisation until the last ten or twenty years. There are still many countries that don't shave and you will find that their men have no complaint as it is the norm for them. Standards of beauty differ so much from country to country. For example in one or maybe more African countries, the fatter your wife is the more you are considered wealthy and the more fertile she is considered. Their standard of beauty is morbid obese women and they take young girls and force feed them to make them attractive and find a husband.

You may feel sick at the thought, but the men wouldn't consider it any other way and find our standard of beauty repulsive. They think the women look sickly and like little girls. It is all in the mind and perception and unfortunately it is taken to extremes in almost all cultures.

Real beauty is the natural bodies we have, in all shapes and sizes. At a healthy body weight and with so much variation. Why settle for one look and a load of clones when there is so much variety. It is really sick that we must so dramatically alter our natural bodies just to fit in with what media and therefore society holds up as the ideal woman....or man. That our bodies are not considered good enough as nature provided them.

Please quote EXACTLY where I said that. I did not at any point say that because I don't believe that. I was pointing out where media had such an effect on peoples perception. At no point did I state that men did not have their own will over this. You have put words in my mouth.