Are you all aware of this? II

Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:05 pm

IMPORTANT NOTE: I don't share any of these concerns, for the people who misunderstood. This thread points out a list of problems that some people share concern with about Skyrim.
Besides that, some of the things that are mentioned on the list are not necessarily true and are only concerns forum members pointed out over the time spent around this forum.


http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1194725-are-you-all-aware-of-this/ to the previous thread.

I decided to check how many things that bother us there are before the game even got out yet xD

So, here it is, hopefully it won't create any flaming wars or something like this... This thread is for all to notice the fact that we have this many problems with the game and it hasn't gotten out yet xD which is hilariously funny, at least for me.

  • People are worried about the possibility of no spellmaking.
  • People are worried about the removal of attributes (everything they did is still in the game, only in a different form of perks/skills/etc).
  • People are worried about the removal of Athletics and Acrobatics, as well as Mysticism. Mysticism's spells gone to other magic schools and still exist.
  • People are worried about the concept of dragons.
  • People are worried about that there might be a simple and fan oriented storyline that includes no depth - Also, was the concern of some.
  • People are worried about having too many dragons(?).
  • People are worried about fast travel - adding Morrowind like options or the "Don't like it don't use it argument".
  • People are worried about having quest markers and quest compass.
  • People are worried about the removal of Birthsigns (it's most likely they are now the perk trees you see when looking towards the sky)
  • People are worried about possibly not seeing your legs or upper torso.
  • People are worried about not having enough choices and consequences in quests and thus, limiting your "Freedom" as a character.
  • People are worried about that the combat system might be - slash, slash, slash, block, finishing move, similar to Oblivion's combat system only with a finishing move.
  • People are worried about that the PC version was downgraded due to consoles capabilities.
  • People are worried about the removal of classes, now specializing according to what you do and not according to what you choose at the beginning of the game.
  • People are worried about low resolution textures (spotted in the trailer).
  • People are worried about the possibly not being able to climb mountains.
  • People are worried about not being able to block if you are equipped with a spell and a weapon.
  • People are worried about the lack of spears.
  • People are worried about no-good looking waters in Skyrim due to the water we've seen in the trailer (I personally think they look good).
  • People are worried about how powerful magnetism will be.
  • People are worried about that dragons might be the "New Oblivion gates" or possibly the new Cliffracers.
  • People are worried about that Skyrim will have less role playing options.
  • People are worried about not having separate armor slots. Having a system similar to Fallout 3.
  • People are worried about dragons being too easy and lame or too hard and exhausting.
  • There exists suspicions of the trailer's dragon fight being scripted.
  • There are fears of Todd giving misleading information about RAI and the rest of the game, which will not be included in the game after its release (similar to what happened with RAI in Oblivion).
  • People are worried about not having mounts.
  • People are worried about being limited due to children being invincible (which will not be discussed in this thread... WARNING)
  • People are worried about level scaling, and what it will be like now (and if it'll really be like Fallout's 3 system).
  • People are worried about not having open cities.
  • People are worried about Skyrim being about the same size as Oblivion.
  • People are worried about no levitation.
  • People are worried about the new user interface.
  • People are worried about the placement of items in-game (such as loots in dungeons, how random they are, etc).
  • The most important concern out here: People are worried that there's a small chance M'aiq the liar will not be in Skyrim!


So, yeah, just wanted all of you to be aware of this xD I'm actually giggling right now a little... Anyway, if you can think of more problems mentioned that I didn't put on the list, you might as well post them and I'll add them to this "Official problems with Skyrim list" of mine.

EDIT: I've added a poll so that we could see just how many people are concerned about Skyrim and what are the main concerns around this forum. If you don't feel anything on the list bothers you, vote "None of the above" in the first question and "None at all" in the second one.

IMPORTANT NOTE: I don't have a problem with even one of the above :) Just mentioning the problems that occurred around this forum.
For those of you who didn't understand, I am laughing at the amount of problems we (as the community) have with the game, not about the problems with it or that we even have problems with it.

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Gisela Amaya
 
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:57 pm

Meh. :shrug: None of it bothers me.
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LuBiE LoU
 
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:11 pm

Really Dark? I'll say it again....nothing there bothers me.
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:02 pm

Really Dark? I'll say it again....nothing there bothers me.

Really Dragonborn1 :)
And if so, vote "None at all".
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Setal Vara
 
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:02 pm

Meh. :shrug: None of it bothers me.


This.

Like Luke Skyrimmer said in another thread, this is Skyrim, not Oblivion 2 or Morrowind 2.
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:25 pm

The only thing I'm worried Bout is that all my characters will be the same speed...

But I am very upset that they aren't telling us whether light armor skills will be in! I wanna be proficient in my leathers.

But I have the highest hopes for this game, Armor should not be on there, for Pete already said "THIS IS NOT A FALLOUT GAME"

I think we'll have just enough armor slots to sustain us :3

:tes:
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:45 am

My concerns:

8 - I don't like quest markers and compass icons. I worry for them being in Skyrim, and worry for them not being optional. I prefer exploring and thinking on my own, without being hand-held like a mindless robot.
10 - I'd love to see my body. I sure hope we will be able to. Much cooler and greater experience when, for instance, looking down a cliff.
12 - Combat in Oblivion could be made tactial and not slash slash slash (but it still leaned more to slashy), depending on how you actually fought. A reviewer that visited Bethesda in Utah wrote that he thought the combat in Skyrim to be not that improved than from how it was in Oblivion. Therefore, I worry.
13 - Obvious and partly already confirmed. I'd wish Bethesda would pay more attention to PCs and not dumb them down like before. Bethesda should learn from... other game developers in this regard, instead of forcingly make everything equal.
15 - Textures have previously been low-res in BGS's games. Some are really really low-res in the trailer as well. Still, it was shot on Xbox 360. Todd has said there will be higher res textures for the PC. How high, he didn't want to say. Textures weren't high for the PC on Oblivion or Fallout 3, so therefore I worry.
16 - I wanna ACTUALLY climb mountains. So many on the forums have talked about it and Bethesda hasn't responded. Therefore, I worry.
17 - I don't see why I shouldn't be able to block with the sword I hold in one of my hands. There have been talk about this but I never quite got it. Still, I worry.
20 - I'm not a fan of magnetism. I can aim myself. Like with crosshair. It better be optional or super-extremely subtle and only gets in use when companions or such are near.
27 - I love mounts. Who doesn't? I hope they'll be in and that they'll be awesome.
30 - Confirmed. I'm not worried, but disappointed that there are no open cities.
31 - Confirmed. I'm not worried, but disappointed that the world isn't bigger than Oblivion's.

Finally, of course I worry about M'aiq. This list is also actually a very good list for M'aiq to make fun of our worries in-game :)
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:57 pm

Really Dragonborn1 :)
And if so, vote "None at all".

I still don't get why you say "we". You don't have a problem with any if it, so you should say "you guys".
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:33 pm

My concerns:

8 - I don't like quest markers and compass icons. I worry for them being in Skyrim, and worry for them not being optional. I prefer exploring and thinking on my own, without being hand-held like a mindless robot.
10 - I'd love to see my body. I sure hope we will be able to. Much cooler and greater experience when, for instance, looking down a cliff.
12 - Combat in Oblivion could be made tactial and not slash slash slash (but it still leaned more to slashy), depending on how you actually fought. A reviewer that visited Bethesda in Utah wrote that he thought the combat in Skyrim to be not that improved than from how it was in Oblivion. Therefore, I worry.
13 - Obvious and partly already confirmed. I'd wish Bethesda would pay more attention to PCs and not dumb them down like before. Bethesda should learn from... other game developers in this regard, instead of forcingly make everything equal.
15 - Textures have previously been low-res in BGS's games. Some are really really low-res in the trailer as well. Still, it was shot on Xbox 360. Todd has said there will be higher res textures for the PC. How high, he didn't want to say. Textures weren't high for the PC on Oblivion or Fallout 3, so therefore I worry.
16 - I wanna ACTUALLY climb mountains. So many on the forums have talked about it and Bethesda hasn't responded. Therefore, I worry.
17 - I don't see why I shouldn't be able to block with the sword I hold in one of my hands. There have been talk about this but I never quite got it. Still, I worry.
20 - I'm not a fan of magnetism. I can aim myself. Like with crosshair. It better be optional or super-extremely subtle and only gets in use when companions or such are near.
27 - I love mounts. Who doesn't? I hope they'll be in and that they'll be awesome.
30 - Confirmed. I'm not worried, but disappointed that there are no open cities.
31 - Confirmed. I'm not worried, but disappointed that the world isn't bigger than Oblivion's.

Finally, of course I worry about M'aiq. This list is also actually a very good list for M'aiq to make fun of our worries in-game :)

And here folks, is one of the reasons this thread exists. There are many, but this is one of them. Thanks HLVR :)
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:07 pm

I still don't get why you say "we". You don't have a problem with any if it, so you should say "you guys".

I can't seperate myself from being a member of this community too, now can I?

Anyway, I used to be a bit worried about a few stuff, nothing serious and it went away after a day, so I understand some of the people around here (while some I don't).
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:54 am

Nice, comprehensive poll, that might help to prioritise concerns. I'm mostly unworried, though I do have a few nagging concerns over plot and choice and consequence (though these have never been TES strengths), as well as the levelling (though it should be ok) proliferation of dragons, and the lack of spellmaking. Nothing too major.
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Post » Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:46 am

I'm worried that Skyrim won't have a Unicorn.

Seriously... Unicorns are badass.
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Andrew Perry
 
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Post » Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:38 am

The only thing I'm minimally worried about is the PC version being just a console, even though I' mawaere Beth said the PC will have PCer UI as well as the extra graphical features. And M'aiq OBVIOUSLY.

Other than those minor things, not worried at all :D
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:04 am

At least put "some of above" because I really don't want to pick these things until 11.11.11 every week. :teehee:
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:36 am

At least put "some of above" because I really don't want to pick these things until 11.11.11 every week. :teehee:

"Some of the above"? xD That's why I let you choose which "Some" you're concerned about.
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Post » Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:49 am

One thing that has concerned me and appears to be a confirmed thing (or at least from what I remember of reading one of Todd Howard's interviews) is that Skyrim is about the same size as Oblivion (Cyrodiil) but it will feel a lot larger due to having to scale the mountains. Now I don't remember exactly where I read that, but I was not happy with the admitted gimmick Todd mentioned to make Skyrim "feel" larger.
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:36 pm

"No good-looking waters in Skyrim "
"not being able to climb mountains"
:rofl:
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:52 am

One thing that has concerned me and appears to be a confirmed thing (or at least from what I remember of reading one of Todd Howard's interviews) is that Skyrim is about the same size as Oblivion (Cyrodiil) but it will feel a lot larger due to having to scale the mountains. Now I don't remember exactly where I read that, but I was not happy with the admitted gimmick Todd mentioned to make Skyrim "feel" larger.

I believe Oblivion was large enough, but the character got from the end of the map freely to the other end due to the character being a Speedy Gonzales and nothing really limited you, you could walk a straight line from one end to the other.

Skyrim introduces a slower paced world, lots of obstacles on the way and there's no way you could walk in a straight line from one end to the other.

I actually think the same though, because according to the screenshots and the cities, everything looks HUGE. I wonder how they could include all of those things inside the game world altogether. On the other hand, perhaps they made the NPCs smaller now, and made the world bigger(?), maybe that's a possibility too?
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:59 pm

I replaced "worried" with "dislike" or "don't care for" and marked up appropriately. Have fun!

I'll try to update the specific details of my choices if I get a moment, but I currently have a critical view on systems that have been subtracted from, modified, or are currently under a big question mark (attributes, classes, skills, perks, etc.; perhaps you should add alchemy to your list...) . I have found the supporting arguments so far unsatisfactory. How I feel about many of these features and their modifications will depend on what gameplay info they release between now and November, or what I can glean from reviews and wikis after that.
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:22 pm

I replaced "worried" with "dislike" or "don't care for" and marked up appropriately. Have fun!

Which one did you choose?
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:14 pm

I actually think the same though, because according to the screenshots and the cities, everything looks HUGE. I wonder how they could include all of those things inside the game world altogether. On the other hand, perhaps they made the NPCs smaller now, and made the world bigger(?), maybe that's a possibility too?

As long as scaling mountains/ going around the geography of Skyrim doesn't become as cumbersome as too many Oblivion gates.
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:10 pm

Since this thread has turned from a 'funny how many concerns people come up with' thread to a poll about things that worry people most I think it would be good to add concerns about the new User Interface to the poll (EDIT: I know I'm not the only one who is concerned about the UI).

I'm mainly concerned about

1. A simple storyline that lacks depth, because Oblivion's main quest was like that and 'you are the dragonborn, dragons attack and want to destroy the world, defeat them' doesn't sound very interesting to me. Of course it remains to be seen what kind of twists and turns they build into the story, but the main pillars of the story sound boring and uninspired enough to concern me.

2. Having too many dragons\dragons too easy\dragons becoming the new Oblivion Gates. You'll encounter dragons whether you want it or not and since they certainly don't want low level players to run away all the time I fear that dragons will feel like a joke (see Oblivion where you can close the Kvatch gate with a level 1 character). I also fear that the longer it takes to finish the main quest, the more annoying the random dragon fights will become.

3. Not having enough choices and consequences in the game. All ES games so far were lacking this big time, Oblivion even more so than Morrowind. Fallout had a bit of it, but not enough for my taste. New Vegas was pretty good in that regard, but it wasn't made by Bethesda. I hope they have a lot of this in Skyrim, but I'm a bit concerned.

4. Possibility of not having mounts. Oblivion had mounts and while I didn't use them very often I think they added a lot to the atmosphere (NPCs riding mounts). It would definitely be a step back if they didn't have mounts in Skyrim. Concerned about this because they said they're not sure there will be mounts six months before release.

5. Level scaling. While I'm pretty sure it will be much better than Oblivion (can't become worse than that anyway) I still fear there might be too much scaling for my taste. Personally I don't see the point in level scaling at all.

6. The UI. From all I've read and seen so far the apple type interface sounds like a chore to play with. I've made a thread about my concerns http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1166239-anyone-else-worried-about-the-ui/ in case you're interested.

I either don't care about the other points or I have absolutely no reason to believe the game will have the problem mentioned.
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:22 pm

I actually think the same though, because according to the screenshots and the cities, everything looks HUGE. I wonder how they could include all of those things inside the game world altogether. On the other hand, perhaps they made the NPCs smaller now, and made the world bigger(?), maybe that's a possibility too?

Made the NPC's smaller? No I don't think so.
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:04 pm

Since this thread has turned from a 'funny how many concerns people come up with' thread to a poll about things that worry people most I think it would be good to add concerns about the new User Interface to the poll (EDIT: I know I'm not the only one who is concerned about the UI).

Thanks! Added :)

Dragonborn1: It's still a possibility (I mean, look at how small the NPCs compared to the landscape, they are TINY, I remember them bigger in Oblivion).
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Post » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:54 pm

The only thing I'm worried Bout is that all my characters will be the same speed...

But I am very upset that they aren't telling us whether light armor skills will be in! I wanna be proficient in my leathers.

But I have the highest hopes for this game, Armor should not be on there, for Pete already said "THIS IS NOT A FALLOUT GAME"

I think we'll have just enough armor slots to sustain us :3

:tes:



I'm with you on the concern about everyone having the same speed. That problem was found in Fallout 3 & New Vegas where everyone ran at the same speed and your character could never jump higher unless you used cheats or mods.
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