I don't care how many times it's been said already, but I need to vent this one out.

If the next Elder Scrolls game is an MMO, I will cry, and never look this way for halfway decent games ever again. I'm hoping that they'll at least say something about TES V in the upcoming E3, as long as it doesn't involve it being an MMO. Optional co-op, I can tolerate them tossing in as long as it doesn't get in the way of anything else, but yeah, refer to what I just said before that. I've had enough of paying monthly fees for games that couldn't catch my interest past a single week, with all the grinding, annoying players, and other stuff in general.

Besides, I don't think that the series would even survive a transition from what it is now into something that's massively multiplayer. From the way the past Elder Scrolls games were all set up, a significant focus of each was on the player's character, and how they played a major part in history, whether it was fufilling a prophecy like the Nerevarine, or being a spy and manipulating history from the shadows like the Blades agent in Daggerfall. Making it an MMO would really take away that feeling of individuality, of doing what nobody else within that world was able to do before you. I mean, for those of you who've beaten Morrowind's Main Quest and took down Dagoth Ur, and practically everyone in Vvardenfell was fauning over you being a hero and such? Now imagine about three million other people running around within that same world, all with the same accomplishments and such. It really would destroy that feeling of accomplishment, wouldn't it? BAM, goes the individuality. And you might as well detonate a nuke to shatter the immersion, because an MMO would have the same effect.

Just my two cents, which may be useless on top of that already colossal pile, but I simply needed to spill it out.

Read, like, two posts up, man.

:bowdown: You took the words right out of my mouth....... :foodndrink:

It's common sense, really. At least once you start thinking about it in detail. Those guys who are clamoring for an MMO have kinda missed out on those details in all of the dreamy-eyed idealism. Yeah, I happen to be an idealist myself, but I try to make myself a realist-idealist, and making an MMO out of the Elder Scrolls universe simply isn't the right way to go.

And thanks, raithen. Now I guess I can shift my worry to something more petty, like how they are going to design the beast races. Har har for that, but still, you can make something look 'alien' without making them look butt-ugly. I just hope that Bethesda understands that.

The feeling of accomplishment is destroyed just as much by the fact that there are 3 million people doing the same thing offline. A MMO MQ does not have to revolve around a singular hero: it could just as well focus on a group of people or no one at all. Hell, it doesn't even have to have a MQ, choosing to focus instead on regional conflicts (perhaps via pvp), guilds, or even randomly generated quests (ala Daggerfall). Anyhow, this belongs in the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1085332-official-tes-multiplayer-thread/.

Whaa...?? How could you forget a conversation we just had?

Exactly.

E3 has yet to truly begin, plus even if they don't announce it I'll be fine. I just want the best game they are able to make.

As long as it's Zenimax Online or another third-party dev that makes it i'd be fine. If Beth makes it outright I'd be distraught... :sadvaultboy:

No, I'm not. Firstly, E3 isn't even over, and secondly, there was really no reason to expect an announcement at E3. Clearly, the most likely thing is a GI announcment - "Got the cover art in today for the next issue. Giant sequel not at E3, and the art...well, fantasy nuts are gonna crap themselves". It fits in perfectly in relation to the trademark. If not GI, and if no announcement by August, well, then I give up for at least a year. But come on, that's extremely unlikely.

I'm not big on the idea of a TES MMO, but if it were to be from the Daedric perspective, instead of a mortal one, I think it would be a brilliant idea. And the respawning mechanic would actually be supported by lore.

Dudes really?
Did they show off new vegas yet, cause if they havent, then you can be sure there's gonna be something when they are demoing Fallout New vegas....

They haven't shown off anything yet because E3 hasn't started yet.

They are only publishing games now, so whatever it is they are ACTUALLY working on requires a lot of attention and love. Give them some time and their presentation will come with a side of awesome sauce.

I like this quite a bit. If I had better net, I might actually play it. (would need better net first.)

I really really really, want a new TES game, but I know when they do it, they do it right.
So no, not disappointed, just want a new game.

GI, Quake con, and the end of the Skyrim Trademark is coming soon.

I think an Elder Scrolls MMO could work, and would be appropriate for the setting and nature of the game.

However, Bethesda has no idea how to balance a game, and in multiplayer games balance is 20x as important as single player. It would be a disaster if Bethesda tried to make an MMO.

I hope so, and I read all about the end of Skyrim . AM looking forward to Quake.

Not so much into a MMO? MM thingie. Ya know where the players have to play against each other thingie, and well you get it?

Darn, I feel old.. going away now..

cheers on Bethesda! I'll be here when you release it! Just don't tease me for months!

Those "games" are more like tests until more developers want to jump in and create some games with it.

I agree... if a kickass dev decided to create a spell-casting mage sim where you waved your arms to select targets and cast specific spells while using voice commands and body gestures to navigate the menus and the environment, I can see a slick rpg fantasy with Kinect that if you have the "Milo" level of character interaction with NPCs, you end up with the of the most immerse "Role-Playing Game" ever.

Why would you be annoyed when they specifically stated they wouldn't announce it at E3?

over 4 years, over 4 years, over 4 years, over 4 years, AND NO ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not disappointed as I'm still having fun with Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Oblivion(occasionally some Arena, too), but I can see why a person would be disappointed.

It just would be nice even if the drop a line saying "We are working on TESV for the PC, 360 and PS3 and we have been working on it for the past X years"

Just to completely say that it will be like the old games, it won't be made by ZO as an MMO

even if they didn't show an image and just say something I would be happy, but it has been a very long time since the last DLC for Oblivion and we haven't gotten anything on it except for something before Fo3 was out that said they want it to be out by 2010


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Does anyone know how long it took for them to announce Oblivion after Morrowind?

Agree