For me, I am pro Empire. The Blades have served as some of the greatest heroes throughout the 3rd Age, helping to restore order to Daggerfall, saving Vvardenfell/Morrowind thrice from the plots of gods, and saving Tamriel itself from utter destruction! The Imperial Legion had a sense of unity, unlike the Fighters Guilds. There was a strong sense of code and loyalty, not just armed mercenaries whose loyalty was based on coin.

Uriel Septim VII had a history of just rule, and brought prosperity to the provinces even after Jager Tharns coup. Meeting the Emperor, he spoke very humbly of his position as a ruler, to a prisoner he barely knew! And we all know the story of Martin, a priest turned Emperor and hero to an entire continent.

To me, the Empire represents the best of society on Tamriel; civilized, ordered, and still cosmopolitan, recognizing the importance of other national cultures, such as in Morrowind. The Empire was not without flaws of course, I admit that. But I will miss the Empire in Skyrim, and if there are sides to be taken, I will fight to bring it back.

What about you?

Anti. Which roots back to their presence in Morrowind...

Anti.

I don't like the idea of one large, powerful faction. Instead I like to see smaller-medium sized powers wrestle over control of the land. I want there to be smaller and warring factions fighting each other across Skyrim. Kind of like what New Vegas tried to do, but failed.

And on top of that, I had to close all of those Oblivion gates on my own because of those lazy bastards :banghead:

I love a good debate! I'm a little hazy with Morrowind though, tell me what you found contemptible about the Empire in Morrowind!



Yet you still had this in Morrowind though. And Morrowind, while very independant in regards to other provinces, was still conquered by the Empire

I like the Empire, hell even my Dunmer Nerevarine supported the Empire.
However my first Skyrim character will be a Nord barbarian and obviously he will oppose them.

Anti. Ayleids seem cooler.

Anti. Ill-managed presence in Morrowind, barging in on Solstheim, general disregard for the beast races.

And then Martin making me his errand-boy so he could jump in and hog the glory at the last minute after sitting on his hiney at Cloud Ruler Temple being waited on hand and foot while I risked my neck...that was just the last straw.

Down with the Empire! :swear:

I had enough of STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM!

Based on what?
There is bugger all known about the Ayleids.

Definitely plan to help the rebels take down the Wicked Empire for my first playthrough.

This Empire has nothing to do with the one of the Septims... now it's one of warchiefs.

Anyone, depends on my character.

I'm fine with the Empire itself, but Counts and Countesses usually made me mad *cough* racist [censored] Alessia Caro *cough*


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I don't understand the underlined. The Empire has always been a staunch opponent of slavery. Even in Morrowind where slavery was still legal, the Empire defied this.

I can agree with Solstheim, there really wasn't a reason to be there

Oh silly you with Martin :celebration:

Didnt they force themselves into their land and declare themselves the "law" pretty much? Over minding the tribes and people who lived there first for many many years? Sure the Nerevarine was an outlander, but I definitely did not do anything in part of the empire (I played a Dunmer in MW to boot).

If the Empire had its way, they would have control of all the provinces to "protect" and sure their intentions are good but they destroy culture and traditions of those provinces while they are at it and that does not seem worth it to me.

Diversity is far more important in my book, and its not like the other provinces cant defend for themselves, did Morrowind ask for assistance from the Empire? I dont think they did.

I am not a lore buff by any means, but this is the general feel I get when I hear about the Empire. If im mistaken please inform me!

I'm a federalist in real life so the same goes for most of my characters...I've very bad at roleplaying. :sadvaultboy:

I have mixed feelings actually. On the one hand, I never cared for the oppressive foot of The Septims et al, nor some of the doctrines of their Allessian predecessors. Also, while I wasn't particularly bothered by the relationship Tiber Septim had with Barenziah or the fact that he impregnated her, I think it bordered on unforgivable that he forced the then 17 year old Dark Elf to abort their child, even knowing that Dark Elves seldom have more than two or three children in a lifetime.

Anyway, I am fond of the notion of Dark Elves, Altmer, Kajiit, Redguard and Bretons having a certain measure of independence. . . but the Empire did allow for the Provinces to keep native monarchs, so long as they pledged allegiance to The Empire. It could have been better. But it certainly could have been worse as well. The anti-authoritarian in me is vying with the part of me that feels that THe Empire was a strong force of interracial peace in Tamriel.

That's a fair argument. But the Empire really doesn't intend to destroy culture. Diversity IS important. Sure, missionaries go to the Ashlands and spread the word, but they aren't burning down the Tribunal Temples or anything like that.

As for the act of conquest, I think it would be better than chaos. You saw this with the rule of the insane traitor Jagar Tharn. If the provinces aren't united, there would be constant war and conflict all over Tamriel.



What happened with Barenziah was unfortunate, cruel perhaps. Tiber Septim certainly had a lapse of judgement having the affair. But even worse would have been civil war between 2 heirs to the throne. The lesser of 2 evils in my opinion

Until we know more, currenty, my gaming plans for Skyrim include characters that will take opposing sides in the Skyrim Civil War, so acutally, I vote for both.

Chaotic decentralized Tamriel (DF/MW) when there was minimal Empire presence was the best. Anti-Empire. ^_^

Just from reading their brief lore I can tell that they interest me a lot more than the Roman-esque imperials.

I'm joining the side that kills most non-Nords

Yeah, I hope that the Empire will still retain its' lawful good nature. If it doesn't, I may have to change sides...

Probably Anti. But, it depends on which side is more just. If they both svck, i'll go the New Vegas route and say [censored] 'em all!

Maybe there was in the past, but I still dont think there should be one homogeneous rule. The provinces dont have to be at war with each other, and its not much different than the possibility of war from just one big faction trying to push its way into everyone else for the sake of stopping war.

A war to end wars does not make sense to me.

I do think that its good that they dont burn down temples and do book burnings and stuff. But say they do take over, just having Imperials as the rulers would effect the culture and traditions over the years of any province with out them even intending to do so. The residences would slowly adapt the ways of the people in charge and start to lose their own lifestyles, rather than the province developing on its own according to the natives.

Also, every province has its share of problems, and this does not exclude the Empire, so why do they think they should be the ones to have rule?

The affair isn't what bothered me, it was the manner in which he handled the aftermath. Cruel to the point of reprehensibility. There were other measures he could have taken that did not involve a forced aborting.