Yes, I understand that. But...I'm just confused as to why they would say something about armor but not the smithing. It must not be finished yet I guess, but then I wouldn't bother saying anything about armor if it wasn't finished...

Yeah, I'm buying it for sure.
Of course there have been some disappointments, but TES is so big game with many functions it's impossible to please everyone with everything.

EDIT: Could someone please give me a proof about this. I haven't heard about it in a single interview.

Honestly? No. I've been faithful to the elder scrolls series for a long time, but it's like Bethesda has just stopped listening to what the fans are asking for. For example, Todd said in an interview that when fallout 3 was coming out he simply thought "oh no, it will be fine, we will just make the game end when you have finished the main quest line, nobody will mind infact they will probably like it" of course he realised his mistakes after the game released but if he just took one second to look at the forums he would know that the linear ending is the one thing people wanted least, same thing is happening now. I think it's obvious we want the morrowind system back, even when oblivion was coming out we still wanted it but exceptions were made by the fans and we lived with it, at least expecting the old system to come back next game but instead its just been made worse.

I do wish Bethesda could open there eyes sometimes and just listen the the fans for once, just ONCE. Even if some people may not mind it, I'm sure we all prefer they cut corners somewhere else where it just dosnt matter as much, like the enchanting skill, what's the point? Oblivious enchantment system was fine. First spell making, then 3rd person finishes, I'm just not going to bother anymore, to many negatives and not enough positives.

I'll watch one or two videos, but at best I'm just gonna hire it and run through the main quest.

Please Bethesda, just listen to the fans, please.

Nope. I'm going to use the money now to fashion my own RL pair of tinfoil greaves and parade them outside the Bethesda HQ shouting "If I can make them, why can't you!" and "Justice for greaves now!" :batman:

If anyone wants to pay my bail money please, by all means. :whistling:

I'll probably still buy it. However I don't like a lot of the things they've done with the game. It seems Skyrim will not be the game I've been waiting for all these years. :sadvaultboy:

Maybe they just enjoy seeing people on the forums rage and complain. I bet on the day before release they come out and say "Just kidding, armour slots are separate LOLOLOLOL." because they're trolls.

Of course I'm still buying, sure it's a pity with the armor slots, but really, it would be [censored] to not buy because of cosmetic features.

As usual, there is a big difference between disappointing, and the end of the world. I can understand that the simplification upsets some people, there's plenty I've heard that I don't like, but not only have I waited 5 years for this, there's a whole world of lore books and conversations, and a whole new province of Tamriel to explore. Couldn't pass that up regardless of the gameplay.

Seems the old school hardcoe role players are going to be disappointed, so will I a bit, but even if it is an 'open world sandbox action adventure focisung on combat and spectacle with some rpg elements', I would wager this game will be the best in that class.

Oh, and I appreciate some things have been simplified, but when I first played Dragon Age Origins, "Oh no! there's only one piece cuirass and greaves, the game must be rubbish" was Definitely not what sprang to mind.

Anyway, worst case scenario, good looking free roam action game with rpg bits, and still got free download of Daggerfall in DOSbox/Boxer, so win/win .

For people who don't consider armour a gamebreaker and would like to play hours and hours of content the game has to offer....ever think of that? No you obviously don't.

Yes, but seriously could someone please give me proof about this?
Just so I can read it.

Ah so now it's Riding on a Dragon, while Dual Wielding Spears and Crossbows while in Werewolf form and wearing Greaves and Chest Piece.

I voted no because now its just fallout without guns. Seriously not cool, but not major enough for me to not buy it. I have a feeling that the armor sets will look really amazing, so its fine. Demons Souls has really cool armor, which is split into chest, boots, gloves, helm. I cant remember if there is leggings, doesnt matter though.

Hmm, so time to dust off my old idea about a clothier/armoursmith mod - having NPCs to disassemble armour into its parts, then reassemble parts into new armour and clothing, potentially colouring it as well. And maybe a few skills/perks for the PC to be able to do it too...

*There's leggins. :thumbsup:

I can't say I'm not disappointed, but it's hardly a reason not to pick up the game. I'm sure some of the game's other features will make up for it.

I will not buy the console version, since PC mods can give me any armour i want.

This has nothing to do with cities being walled.

Its nothing like Fallout, Fallout had ONE set while Skyrim will have boots, helms, gaunlets, and armour.

Don't you mean Fallout with magic?

Yeah more simplifing and streamlining. I am a bit worried because of the dumbing down. I remember having great times in Diablo, Baulders Gate games and others, when you find certian magic item armours and what not. So now there is less to look for in Skyrim. I loved how we could customize our characters with different stuff, like in Daggerfall or Morrowind, and even Arena I would have Heavy, medium and light armour to mkae a cool distinct look. I guess those days are gone.

Oh well, this is no shock.

But I have to agree with the quote. It is Fallout since Fallout was just one piece clothes. So it does seem Skyrim is becoming more Fallout than TES.

I guess it doesn't matter since it will still be a fun game to play.

A non-factor for me.

Then how comes they brought back the transport system and the enchant skill from Morrowind? One could argue this is by fan base request.

They combine cuirass and greaves and you go ape[censored] about how they've stopped listening to fans? Come on.


You can see in the gameplay video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic6dKnv3WdU) at around 3:50 when he's browsing the inventory. It says elven boots, elven gauntlets, elven helmet, but then the rest is just "elven armor". Same thing with iron further down. You can even pause the video at just about 3:52 to see the picture of the elven armor, it's indeed the cuirass with the greaves put together.



Chill the [censored] out, Jesus. If things like this kill the game for you then don't buy it then. Bethesda isn't going to make another Morrowind.

Interesting, so in baldur's gate, did you ever notice that that chest and greaves are also combined there?

yap i buy it, elder scrolls ...

its not only about customization its about completing a full set of armor is now lesser rewarding because its just to easy with only 4 parts of it and maybe just 3 not everyone wants to wear a helmet

we dont know how it will affect modding, now you have to make and slot more even if you dont want to