SO are you still buying Skyrim? : V - Skyrim

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:28 pm

Not buying but it will be a great game.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:11 am

This isn't a big deal for me. I'd prefer separate armor parts but whatever... I'm buying Skyrim as soon as I can get my gauntlets on a copy. I see a lot of good coming out in November and some armor welded together ain't gonna stop me having a blast in the next Elder Scrolls.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:32 pm

Asking; "do you intend to buy Skyrim?" On the 'Elderscrolls' forums is tad silly now isn't it?

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:17 pm

You can see in the gameplay video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic6dKnv3WdU) at around 3:50 when he's browsing the inventory. It says elven boots, elven gauntlets, elven helmet, but then the rest is just "elven armor". Same thing with iron further down. You can even pause the video at just about 3:52 to see the picture of the elven armor, it's indeed the cuirass with the greaves put together.

I'm sorry, but just from judging the 3d image of Elven armor I don't see any indication that the greeves are a part of the cuirass. Unless of course the PCs legs are like 12 inches long or greeves are now considered extreme short-shorts. This whole thread is based on assumptions.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:49 am

this topic is so lame....

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:41 am

I'm sorry, but just from judging the 3d image of Elven armor I don't see any indication that the greeves are a part of the cuirass. Unless of course the PCs legs are like 12 inches long or greeves are now considered extreme short-shorts. This whole thread is based on assumptions.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1202030-couple-of-new-e3-interviews/

@BadVoodoo, not really, some posts have been shouting "deal breaker" since January.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:50 am

Honestly? No. I've been faithful to the elder scrolls series for a long time, but it's like Bethesda has just stopped listening to what the fans are asking for. For example, Todd said in an interview that when fallout 3 was coming out he simply thought "oh no, it will be fine, we will just make the game end when you have finished the main quest line, nobody will mind infact they will probably like it" of course he realised his mistakes after the game released but if he just took one second to look at the forums he would know that the linear ending is the one thing people wanted least, same thing is happening now. I think it's obvious we want the morrowind system back, even when oblivion was coming out we still wanted it but exceptions were made by the fans and we lived with it, at least expecting the old system to come back next game but instead its just been made worse.

I do wish Bethesda could open there eyes sometimes and just listen the the fans for once, just ONCE. Even if some people may not mind it, I'm sure we all prefer they cut corners somewhere else where it just dosnt matter as much, like the enchanting skill, what's the point? Oblivious enchantment system was fine. First spell making, then 3rd person finishes, I'm just not going to bother anymore, to many negatives and not enough positives.

I'll watch one or two videos, but at best I'm just gonna hire it and run through the main quest.

Please Bethesda, just listen to the fans, please.

Agree with this.

Problem with most game developers ambitions seeing the light of day is likely the hand that feeds them, ie, the money men. The latter see the commercial success of titles which utilise heavy stream-lining in comparison to their forebears (Dead Space 2, Mass Effect 2 & Dragon Age 2 to name a few) and of course they "Want that one!". They don't care what the minority of fans want, they want to sell games that people with 2 brain cells and an Xbox buy.

Bethesda are as guilty as the next party for this.

Despite this I can't say I really blame them, it's clear that PC developers struggle to stay afloat these days unless they admit defeat and go cross-platform. Sad but thats the way it is.

Pretty soon we'll come full circle and we'll be playing Bethesdas iteration of Pong because sales figures on less advanced platforms with an easier to please customer base dictate the type of games we get.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:06 pm

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1202030-couple-of-new-e3-interviews/

@BadVoodoo, not really, some posts have been shouting "deal breaker" since January.

Thanks. Though I didn't hear him say that cuirasses and greaves are now combined into "armor" but whatever. I still think you guys are jumping to conclusions and are extremely overreacting to this.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:45 pm

its called S_M_I_T_H_I_N_G

and you will be able to customize more than OB and MW combined

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:12 am

Kinda funny though how they increase the amount of facial
customization at the same time.

I can't wait to try the new character creator.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:54 am

I really don't see why some people think this is a big deal.

It's pretty much a non-factor for me.

If anything it might be a positive. Because realistically it doesn't seem right to be able to mix armor. in the real world the armor would be matched and fitted together. I always thought it odd in Oblivion were some NPC is wearing a steel Curiass and Dwemer Greaves, or your character wearing a Elven Curiass and Orcish Greaves. Lot's of armor doesn't go together.

So I don't understand why some think it's such a big deal. I guess because it's not like Oblivion and certainly not like Morrowind. So I guess were going to get criticisms about any change, despite improvements. Like Oblivion was trashed for removing spears, and yet all the gameplay improvement basically ignored. It's looking like it will be the same for poor Skyrim.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:46 pm

Yes...

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:20 am

The thing with the Armor is a huge setback in the series. Its probably a balancing issue, but heck they could have done something else about it, like playing around with the armor points, maybe devalue them a little so another slot, like greaves, could remain. I'll still play it
, thats not the issue.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:19 pm

I'm still buying it, it's not game breaker for me.... although this armour slots could be a "replay" game breaker for me. Though the evidence is leaning that way, I'm still holding out hope that our assumptions are wrong. But when it comes down to it, we will still be getting a better value out of Skyrim, then any non-open world RPG like ME or DA series.

Other "Replay" breakers, ifs:
1. Creating enchantments are dumbdowned to the point where there is no customization
2. Spell creation is removed
3. Soultrapping is out.
4. Artifacts and/or legendary weapons are leveled

I'm actually contemplating buying it on PC now, because of the whole replay factore (I just don't want to spend the money upgrading 8 year old computer).... if I had to do it all over again I would of bought Oblivion on PC.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:23 pm

SO are you still buying Skyrim?

Of course, why wouldn't I?

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:18 pm

Honestly? No. I've been faithful to the elder scrolls series for a long time, but it's like Bethesda has just stopped listening to what the fans are asking for. For example, Todd said in an interview that when fallout 3 was coming out he simply thought "oh no, it will be fine, we will just make the game end when you have finished the main quest line, nobody will mind infact they will probably like it" of course he realised his mistakes after the game released but if he just took one second to look at the forums he would know that the linear ending is the one thing people wanted least, same thing is happening now. I think it's obvious we want the morrowind system back, even when oblivion was coming out we still wanted it but exceptions were made by the fans and we lived with it, at least expecting the old system to come back next game but instead its just been made worse.

I do wish Bethesda could open there eyes sometimes and just listen the the fans for once, just ONCE. Even if some people may not mind it, I'm sure we all prefer they cut corners somewhere else where it just dosnt matter as much, like the enchanting skill, what's the point? Oblivious enchantment system was fine. First spell making, then 3rd person finishes, I'm just not going to bother anymore, to many negatives and not enough positives.

Hey, ever played Fallout: New Vegas? A game that has been known of many fan ideas?

Guess what they did with the ending!

Please Bethesda, just listen to the fans, please.

Please Bethesda, don't.

If there's something I've learned from these forums, is that most of the people here don't even know what they're talking about, especially if they think they know more about the game...

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:19 am

Who ever said that they wont buy this game, Todd Howard is gonna come to their house and go FUS RO DAH right in their face. :devil:

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:07 pm

Skyrim is awesome, regardless of how much they're dummying down the game. It's the best thing out there, so of course I'm getting it.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:14 pm

...Please Bethesda, just listen to the fans, please.

...Please Bethesda, don't....

Agree. Please don't. Just make the game the why you (Bethesda) think you should make the game. Because Bethesda knows how to make these type of games.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:35 pm

Wow, people here get really worked up over a single armor slot being taken out. In the grand scheme of a game it is really minor.
Oh no! I can't have non matching pants!!

Calm down, relax and just enjoy a great game.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:45 pm

Agree. Please don't. Just make the game the why you (Bethesda) think you should make the game. Because Bethesda knows how to make these type of games.

Meanwhile one out of eight voters on this thread so far say they will no longer buy at release date.
And this is the official forum for the game, where the fans go.

That, at the very least, should be a huge signal to Bethesda that some long term fans are not happy.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:28 pm

Do I like the news? No.

Will I still buy the game? Yes.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:37 pm

I don't see why anyone would not buy the game anymore because cuirass and greaves are merged. It's definitely not a game breaker. I mean, look at Fallout.

Fallout 3 and New Vegas were both great games and no one complained about having outfits only.

If someone is really upset and doesn't buy the game for this minor reason then they are just ignorant.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:22 pm

stop pirating it
this game deserves to be bought!

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:22 am

the only thing that would stop me from buying skyrim is if they put guns in it, i can deal with the Armour anyway because i don't build boring swordsman characters that are dependent on their heavy armour i build mages and archers both of which don't need an armour system to be as intricate as for example morrowind.