kind of like Mass Effect 2

No. This isn't EA BioWare.

I think they learned from that mistake in Oblivion.

I have faith

Can you stop making these threads? Use search. The answer's already out there.

Not really, I think that things will be different, not simpler.

Different style of RPGs altogether.

As much as i'm sure there are plenty of kids out there who are new to the Elder Scrolls series and are hoping Skyrim will be like a Bioware game, I don't see Bethesda making such a stupid mistake. They have more sense than that.

I have no comment for all this stupidity.

I said NO.

Worried about it? Nah. After the Daggerfall - Morrowind - Oblivion progression, I just expect it. :shrug:

Yes, but I think they will do a good job regardless. It's always worrisome when you develop expectations and are unsure how they will be met. With that said, I'm looking forward to playing a game that will not be exactly the same as Oblivion.

Maybe not that much, but yes, until I get to play it, I don't trust anyone PR'ing all sorts of shiny features while the RPG mechanics are simplified with each installment since Daggerfgall.

i thought mass effect 2 was a brilliant game, lacking a bit on the RPG side of things and more geared towards action, dumbed down always seems too much of a negative description to me. I dont think skyrim will be dumbed down, different to previous tes games perhaps, but only time will tell. Why so much ragging on EA bioware they might not make the greatest RPGs out there but they maked damned good games

edit: oh and the poll needs a not sure or maybe option

No

They've already said that they've learned lessons from Oblivion, and it will have more of a feel of Morrowind in many regards.

I actually haven't played any Mass Effect games. I don't like sci-fi games very much and don't like bioware's style.

I can't really expect the game to be overly complex since it is designed to appeal to a large cross section of people. I think it will be fun and have a large selection of features to appeal to players that don't want to spend their time in combat.

I am hoping to be able to fish in that nice river in the screen shots.

I have a few worries about Skyrim, but nothing major, and I think they'll handle all of my worries. Really, I'm not worried about this. I think they've gotten the message when EVERY fan is saying they shouldn't dumb it down. If it is dumbed down, I'll hate them for it, but I'm not worried about it.

Never played ME2, was it that bad? I played ME1 and enjoyed it greatly.

Hopefully they won't, I still think Skyrim will be totally worth the money and wait.

no i dont believe it was that bad, I thought it was actually a very good game, they just toned down the rpg aspects so now people rag on it a bit

Mass Effect 2 was dumbed-down, but a lot of it made sense. Actually playing Mass Effect 1, it was really a cover-based shooter that used RPG elements to compensate for it's weak shooter mechanics. Mass Effect 2 played much, much better than Mass Effect 1, but I didn't find it as enjoyable, because there was no thrill to exploration (Both in terms of the galaxy itself, and exploring things like equipment builds).


As for Skyrim, I'm not really worried. While I would have liked attributes to be tweaked to better serve the game, I don't mourn their loss, as they didn't add much to the game itself, at least not anymore than the perks will. The real test will come when we get more word of things like Equipment function, and glimpses of the world detail. I hope someone on the team is going through Morrowind right now, to see how to design dungeons and world-spaces that, although totally static, seem alive.

Also, I want strongholds back! I just remade the Hlaalu stronghold on the Odai Plateau, and I forgot how great a series of quests it is. Intentionally written into it or not, while doing the quests, you can't help but have that sense of "I have arrived", as in, you are really somebody among your chosen Great House.

ME2 was because of EA if anything. They want it dumber, so a broader audience will buy it, and they make more money. Even if that means a worse game. BGS would not do that. They make the best game they can, and lots of people end up buying it. The cornerstone of good business.

I agree. All the reason to not trust them.

No, I'm not worried at all. I intend to appreciate every aspect of Skyrim, "dumbed down" or otherwise.

Quite honestly, most of what I do in Oblivion is just wander around anymore, and I would quite honestly pay $50 to do that in this new engine aswell.

He's implying Morrowind was dumbed down from Daggerfall and Oblivion was dumbed down from Morrowind.

Am I worried? Not really, but didn't want to vote no, because after Oblvion, could they really do any worse? I am use to the fact that Bethesda thinks we are stupid, gamers who need our hand held to do things and can never fail who doesn't have an attention span for no more than 5 minutes.

Still with all the short comings of Oblivon, I still loved that game eventually, so I am sure I will love Skyrim as well not matter how simplified/streamlined/dumbed down compared to TES I-III games is.

So no I am not worried. Still voted yes though because I am disapointed that Behtesda feels they have to go that way.

I voted yes, but mods usually take care of any problems i have

No, but then again I don't think ME2 was dumbed down at all either.