Arena, Daggerfall on XBLA/PSN?

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:13 am

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Amelia Pritchard
 
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:14 pm

Pretty much anyone with an XBox or Playstation also has a computer that can already run these games, and they're available for free, so porting them over (which would be nightmarish) doesn't seem worthwhile.
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Ian White
 
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:49 pm

I guess I'd like to see this much like doom and doom 2 on xbla. Since they aren't doing any more Fallout 3 or Oblivion DLC, was hoping for something to do until IdTech Scrolls 5 comes out.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:22 am

Pretty much anyone with an XBox or Playstation also has a computer that can already run these games, and they're available for free, so porting them over (which would be nightmarish) doesn't seem worthwhile.

yeah but if you're a gamerscore [censored] like me you'll play them because they're great games and you're getting achievements for them
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Chelsea Head
 
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:56 pm

Well I would love it if they put up a version with improved graphics like daggerfall.xl I never played daggerfall.xl demo but from those pictures it seemed like a hugh jump
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:36 am

YES! I don't have them for PC (Yes, I know that they are free). The reason why is because this is a normal computer that everybody in my family uses, so my parents probably won't let me DL them. So I can not get them for PC, and I would love to play them on Xbox because I would be able to get it, and I like gaming on consoles more than PC.

So, I will restate what I previously said...
YES!


And BTW, nobody make any off-topic comments about me not being able to get them for PC. I don't want this thread to be closed.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:24 am

yes definitely and the funny thing is that i was thinking about posting a topic exactly like this a few days ago :o
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:25 am

I guess I'd like to see this much like doom and doom 2 on xbla. Since they aren't doing any more Fallout 3 or Oblivion DLC, was hoping for something to do until IdTech Scrolls 5 comes out.

DooM is on the XBLA Marketplace. Also, it would be a nice thing to have, but I'm fine with just using the DOSBox emulator, and typing in several lines of commands to play the game. It now comes naturally, and takes as much time (if not less) to type than to turn on my xbox, sign in, and load up the game there. (One more thing: There are in no way, shape or form enough buttons on either controller to play Daggerfall)Besides, if you want to talk to your buds while playing Daggerfall, just take the controller to the computer. (Just occasionally move the joysticks so that it doesn't turn off.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:03 pm

Why do we keep getting these...it cannot happen...end of story.

what is the point in porting a free game that would require a near re-coding ot get it to just run on Xbox/PS and then we'd get complaint on the bugs that you get (it is far from a bug free game).


Not gonna happen, no matter what we say.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:01 pm

There are way to many buttons for Daggerfall and you would probbally have to pay money for it, get Arena and Daggerfall for free on PC so why the hell would you want it for consoles. (by the way i own a ps3 and i dont want this masterclass on consoles)
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:23 pm

I think it is a grave impossibility. Like da mage says.

And by grave I mean good, I prefer good classics to be played the classical way. Porting TES I or II to a console would be like downloading Sega Genisis games on your PC when you already have a perfectly fine Sega Genisis sitting in the living room. Why not just play the damn thing how it is instead of wishing for something different? :shrug:

If you would prefer Daggerfall on a console then you probably don't really like the game as much as you think you do. It was meant to be played the way it is, and it still is. This is like a Morrowind for PSP or Nintendo DS Topic, you should be happy that this game was made for PC instead of a console, all console games die in the wind, some last a long, long time. But most die, and I think if ES was always console it would be maybe as good as Dragon Warrior for the NES, nothing like we know it today.

I don't mean to offend anyone, but that's how I feel. :frog:
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:33 am

Both of them are way too buggy to be ported.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:14 am

You mean so we can pay $20 for games that are free on the PC? Nah.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:10 pm

I think there are a few reasons this would be a good idea, and since most of the reasons it'd be a bad idea have already been posted I'll focus on the good.

  • You would not have to go through the hassle of setting up the game to play on DOSBox. This can be a very confusing process even using the instructions I've found here and on UESP.
  • Some people might like to be able to play the games with a controller as opposed to keyboard/mouse (although it's possible there are ways to set up a gamepad either in-game or using an external key-mapping program-but again, it can be a bit of a hassle).
  • Unless you're like me and have your computer hooked up directly to your TV screen, you can only play these games on your computer monitor. Granted, the graphics aren't that great so playing it on a larger screen would just "bring out the flaws more", but some people might like to play it on a larger screen nonetheless.


Also, should note it'd be HIGHLY unlikely that these games would cost $20, likely they'd be around $5 like other "classic" games like Doom on XBLA, or possibly $10 since they may be a bit more difficult to port over.

Do I personally think it'd be a good idea? Well, for me I probably wouldn't buy it because like I said I've got my computer hooked up to a TV screen so I can already play these games in my bedroom and on a descent-sized screen-I've also managed to finally set up Daggerfall but it was a bit of a pain to figure out. Also, as others have mentioned it would probably be difficult to do and it seems there are a number of unresolved bugs that might be considered less acceptable for a console release, and likely the process of porting would lead to yet more bugs that would need resolved. Also, aside from the last reason, all the reasons are simply based on a pure matter of convenience more or less, so really would it be worth it?

As for Morrowind, I could see it coming up on that X-Box Originals section maybe, although I'd like it even better if they threw in the PC version's higher resolution textures and maybe called it "remastered" or "enhanced" or something to account for the improved quality. lol
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:46 pm

yes definitely and the funny thing is that i was thinking about posting a topic exactly like this a few days ago :o

So does somebody else every few weeks...

This is not going to happen, it doesn't need to happen, stop making these threads.
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Maddy Paul
 
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:24 pm

So does somebody else every few weeks...

This is not going to happen, it doesn't need to happen, stop making these threads.

Remember this, need and want are two entirely different realms.
there are MANY 360 players that don't game on a computer, and I'm sure quite a few would even be willing to purchase what is otherwise 'free content' for PC users.
*Cite the Left 4 Dead crash course campaign....free on PC, $7 for 360 players.

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Whether or not this happens, there are those that WANT it to happen, stop shooting people down for your own OPINION.
Capice? ;)
Thank you for your understanding,
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PS. I Own a decent PC on which I do most of my gaming and a 360, and I'D purchase Daggerfall off the 360 marketplace.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:09 pm

If they recode the game for the XBLA/PSN, they might as well re-release it for the PC.

Before anyone goes "It's free, use it now!", I would be willing to pay for a new copy if it was ported and fixed. Lucasarts did it with their old adventure games. Sure, you could get SCUMMVM and an original copy but instead one could just buy it off of Steam for 5 bucks.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:03 am

If they recode the game for the XBLA/PSN, they might as well re-release it for the PC.

Before anyone goes "It's free, use it now!", I would be willing to pay for a new copy if it was ported and fixed. Lucasarts did it with their old adventure games. Sure, you could get SCUMMVM and an original copy but instead one could just buy it off of Steam for 5 bucks.


I think there's far more that agree with you (and me) than are vocalized.
I just can't stand the blatant arrogance that some have shown the OP in this thread.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:12 am

I just think that it is what it is, and it has probably been left that way for good reason.

The only way you could make a change is to petition Bethesda, and like all good petitions, all they do is make them think about it, it doesn't garuntee anything. Most people in this part of the forum are probably going to be a little conservative about early ES games because they have been around since they first caught word of Arena. So it's probably gonna cause some friction when people come in here throwing new wave gamer ideas around, I've only been around as soon as Morrowind came out, but I think that if people really wanna play these games they should go figure it out.

I have been thinking about playing Daggerfall for years but never really wanted to until just recently, so I got on this forum and figured it out. I think everyone should have to do that, and people that won't, or can't figure it out, simply don't want to play it that bad.

That's how it is right now, and I assume that most people that want it to be ported over are lazy, not all, but most. I'm pretty lazy, and even I figured it out. And the only effective thing that these really lazy people could do to have this happen is start a petition. Personally, I don't see really lazy people ever doing that. If you aren't lazy and just want to see early ES games ported over for whatever reason, then go for it, but I don't tink it's worth the trouble when you are already able to play the game.

Realistically, I don't think this will never happen. Yes, I do have a biased opinion, but what I'm saying makes clear sense. I don't mean to offend anyone.

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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:59 am

I can see the devs at Bethesda shuddering at the thought. It would be a phenomenal amount of work to make it playable on an XBox, even with the code in hand. It also might not survive intact if that were to happen. Things like the nudity wouldn't get past the console makers, despite fitting the game quite well.

DaggerXL looks like it will lower the barrier to play it and that will be nice. For people who can't play it on a computer, Lucius expressed interest in seeing or even writing a DS port, and other console ports could potentially be written. That said, they still wouldn't make it onto any official services without changes and without Bethesda doing it themselves (or their blessing). It would be nice if that did happen because giving console players some more exposure to a "real" RPG would be sweet. Well, loads of people I know loved Fallout 3. That's the first Bethesda game

The guys are also right when they say Daggerfall takes a different level of effort to play. It really is a very different game. The effort required to install it is like a prelude to the effort required to learn it and play it. It's tons of fun, but it's just utterly different.

In the mean time, why not find a PC to play it on? It will run on a pretty crappy computer. On a lark one day I got it running on my 1 GHz laptop from 2002 with 256 MB of RAM and a 16 MB video card. It was slow, but it worked on there, so I can see it working on just about any machine built in the last five years (no bets on those garbage Intel GPUs).
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:07 am

Oh, dear LORDY! Daggerfall on my DS? there goes college...it was a fun ride :D
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:00 pm

Yes yes yes yes yes yes....yes? Yes.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:22 pm

yeah but if you're a gamerscore [censored] like me you'll play them because they're great games and you're getting achievements for them


Do you really want 200/400GS that badly?

Oh, dear LORDY! Daggerfall on my DS? there goes college...it was a fun ride


DS doesn't have the specs to handle a straight port of Daggerfall.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:37 pm

Daggerfall's interface requires a keyboard+mouse combo. It just wouldn't be playable on a console. Also, even with the game's low res, good luck reading the books and dialogues on your TV screen from your couch three meters away.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:29 am

Indeed. Any console port of Daggerfall would be a strange affair. The UI would have to be radically different. Lucius seems to think a port to the DS with limited graphics would work. Would probably be an interesting challenge dealing with the very limited RAM on that thing (4 MB).
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