ARGGGGGHHHHHH Ctd again! : IV

» Tue May 08, 2012 6:49 pm

Ugh sick of asking for help and i am sure i am annoying you guys but i am getting more ctd. They happen straight after clicking ''continue'' at the main menu. It stops for a moment at the loading screen then shuts down. It was working fine this morning but after i uninstalled deadly reflex and then reinstalled deadly reflex because i had uninstalled unnecessary violence a few days back and i remembered that it had overwrote a few deadly reflex files. I thought reinstalling deadly reflex would replace those files and make everything happy and sunshine and lollipops, but instead it made it like the plane of oblivion!

So anyway if you didn't understand hat here are cliff notes:

Installed unnecessary violence about a week ago, it overwrote some deadly reflex files.
Didn't like unnecessary violence so uninstalled it a few days later.
Played earlier worked fine with no ctd.
Then i remembered that about the files that i overwrote so i reinstalled deadly reflex to try and fix it.
BOOM ctd. I also reinstalled menu status bars and dark darnuld ( dunno why?)

Anyway .....Active Mod Files:

Spoiler

00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]04  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]05  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm06  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]07  No Lights Flicker.esm08  HorseCombatMaster.esm++  HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.1]0A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.0]0C  Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp  [Version 5.0]0D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [Version 5.0]0E  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]0F  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]**  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [Version 5.0]++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]10  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Symphony of Violence.esp11  ChaseCameraMod.esp12  ImprovedSigns.esp13  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]14  Streamline 3.1.esp15  DLCHorseArmor.esp16  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]17  DLCOrrery.esp18  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]19  NLF Orrery.esp1A  DLCVileLair.esp1B  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]1C  NLF VileLair.esp1D  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp1E  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1F  NLF MehrunesRazor.esp20  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]21  Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp22  Adonnays Klassische Waffen.esp23  Armory of the Silver Dragon.esp24  CapesandCloaks.esp25  pale_rider's DragonhunterReloaded.esp26  Sauron_Armor_Chest.esp27  SK_Berserk_v0.6.esp28  tda_Armoury.esp29  Tyrael Armor.esp2A  Thieves Arsenal.esp2B  Daedric Lord Armor.esp++  Daedric Lord-Classic Bound Armor.esp2C  DLCThievesDen.esp2D  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2F  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp30  Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp31  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]32  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]33  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]34  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]35  OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-DLT_Remover.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp  [Version 1.33]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]36  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]37  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]38  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]39  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3E  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]3F  FenrirTheWolf.esp40  24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp41  24HrArenaAliveLow.esp42  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp43  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]44  DLCFrostcrag.esp45  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]46  NLF FrostCrag.esp47  Knights.esp48  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]49  NLF Knights.esp++  QuietFeet.esp4A  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp4B  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4C  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp++  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4D  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]4E  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]4F  Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp  [Version 1.2.5]50  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3.2]51  901--Fixed- max carrying capacity.-TESSource.esp52  RealisticForceMedium.esp53  RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp54  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]55  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.90]56  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]57  MidasSpells.esp58  Midas OscuroGems.esp++  Midas Reduced Costs 3 Quarters.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Midas Creature Ingredients.esp59  attack and hide medium v2.0.esp5A  Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp5B  Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp5C  Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp5D  Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp5E  DRSplatter.esp5F  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]60  SP1stPLegs.esp**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp  [Version 1.33]61  UVII.esp62  DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp++  Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp63  Platinum Armor & Weapons v0.5.esp64  Hero's Retreat v1.2.esp65  Bashed Patch, Oblivion.esp

» Tue May 08, 2012 5:07 pm

I recommend that you completely removed deadly reflex then update the master list in the Mods tab in Wrye Bash, before you run BOSS then rebuild the bashed patch and finally clean your gamesaves. After that just try if you can play the game. :smile:

» Tue May 08, 2012 3:04 pm

If your machine can handle an ooo/fcom/mmm setup then you really dont need hrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp
Whether it is causing you any problems or not I dont know, but for what it is worth in your setup you dont need it .. OSR and streamline give you a lot more beneficial (and measureable) game optimisation.
Just using one of the mmm reduction esps' (IIRC (I use T.I.E so dont quote me) mmm has a few 'less monster type' esps which would give you more performance than having OSO installed.

Also, if you are using the overhaul compillation you linked to earlier http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1332382-req-all-in-one-overhaul/page__view__findpost__p__20064005
Then you are probably better off seeking advice from the people who put that un-authorised compillation together. Or re-installing with the official files from which you will get better support of course, from the experts who created the original and know all of its potential complications :shrug:

» Tue May 08, 2012 3:45 pm

If your machine can handle an ooo/fcom/mmm setup then you really dont need hrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp
Whether it is causing you any problems or not I dont know, but for what it is worth in your setup you dont need it .. OSR and streamline give you a lot more beneficial (and measureable) game optimisation.
Just using one of the mmm reduction esps' (IIRC (I use T.I.E so dont quote me) mmm has a few 'less monster type' esps which would give you more performance than having OSO installed.

Also, if you are using the overhaul compillation you linked to earlier http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1332382-req-all-in-one-overhaul/page__view__findpost__p__20064005
Then you are probably better off seeking advice from the people who put that un-authorised compillation together. Or re-installing with the official files from which you will get better support of course, from the experts who created the original and know all of its potential complications :shrug:

Haha no i don't use that, i put these mod in myself.

» Tue May 08, 2012 10:57 pm

Disabling deadly reflex made it even worse. I cant even get passed the Bethesda logo. I double click the obse then the screen flashes back and then crash?

» Wed May 09, 2012 12:52 am

Sounds like a missing master. Have you checked to make sure you have all dependencies?

Also, have you run BOSS and rebuilt your Bashed patch?

» Wed May 09, 2012 4:34 am

Yes, yes and yes... still not working, its so annoying.

» Wed May 09, 2012 1:14 am

Start doing a binary search then to find the trouble.

» Tue May 08, 2012 9:04 pm

Remove the following :
Bob's Cheat Armory. You can't use this together with Bob's Armory.
Adonnays Klassiche Waffen - this is the German version of Classical Weaponry. Again you can't use both.
OOO_Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.. Exceptionally doubtful this is required. If so use the bashed patch option instead.
OOO_Container_traps_effect. Included with version 1.34 full.
OMOBS Optional Combat Settings. These are included with version 2.0 of OMOBS.

I'd strongly suggest adding one of the reduced spawn rates offered by FCOM or MMM. Perhaps the extra creatures added without one is putting too much strain on your rig?

My opinion only of course, but drop Deadly Reflexes until the bugs and crashing issues have been rectified. See the DR thread for details on these.

As always after altering your load list firstly use BOSS addressing anything it may highlight and then finally rebuild the bashed patch.

» Tue May 08, 2012 9:11 pm

wereireland, the fact that you still have/had the german version of Adonnay Weaponry in your modlist despite us having told you already 2 weeks ago to get rid of the german version of it, makes me wonder how seriously you actually take our advice. I'm a bit disappointed and will not check back in no more. Good luck.

» Tue May 08, 2012 10:02 pm

wereireland, the fact that you still have/had the german version of Adonnay Weaponry in your modlist despite us having told you already 2 weeks ago to get rid of the german version of it, makes me wonder how seriously you actually take our advice. I'm a bit disappointed and will not check back in no more. Good luck.

Sorry that you feel that way, but i don't remember anyone saying that. Sometimes when i start a thread and no one replies to it for a few days i think it has died and i wont check back. Also I am very busy during week days and i don't get much time on the internet.

But I really do take peoples advice. Like remember the streamline and the things i had to delete out of fcom? Also i don't even remember installing the german version. Most of the time if it isnt OBMM ready i us nexus mod manager so i don't see what i am installing.

But i understand if you don't want to come back to any of my threads, as i can seem arrogant sometimes.

» Wed May 09, 2012 4:33 am

Remove the following :
Bob's Cheat Armory. You can't use this together with Bob's Armory.
Adonnays Klassiche Waffen - this is the German version of Classical Weaponry. Again you can't use both.
OOO_Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.. Exceptionally doubtful this is required. If so use the bashed patch option instead.
OOO_Container_traps_effect. Included with version 1.34 full.
OMOBS Optional Combat Settings. These are included with version 2.0 of OMOBS.

I'd strongly suggest adding one of the reduced spawn rates offered by FCOM or MMM. Perhaps the extra creatures added without one is putting too much strain on your rig?

My opinion only of course, but drop Deadly Reflexes until the bugs and crashing issues have been rectified. See the DR thread for details on these.

As always after altering your load list firstly use BOSS addressing anything it may highlight and then finally rebuild the bashed patch.

My rig can handle the game without too major of a problem and i like the extra challenge and loot from more enemies. I have tried everything to fix this. I have uninstalled and reinstalled both UV II and Deadly Reflex multiple times with no difference.

In the second post he says to clean my saves and update the master lists. How do I do this?

» Tue May 08, 2012 9:40 pm

~ nexus mod manager so i don't see what i am installing.

Yeah, there's a potential heap of complications too, Nexus Mod Manager probably doesn't know what you are installing either ... See the third post here http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1293366-nexus-mod-manager/

You really need to read the description / documentation / readme of everything you install, and take it one mod at a time.

If you have not seen it yet - Here's a good site for general modding Oblivion tips, have a good read http://tescosi.com/wiki/Oblivion

» Tue May 08, 2012 10:54 pm

Sorry that you feel that way, but i don't remember anyone saying that.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1324714-relz-fcom-convergence/page__view__findpost__p__19978074