Argonians are monotremes

Post » Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:12 am

I have finally figured out why Argonian females have briasts. Argonians are Monotremes.

Montremes are mammals that lay eggs and secrete milk.

Platypus and Echidna are examples of the two remaining species of Monotremes on earth.

Platypus lay eggs, spend all their time in water and have a duck like bill. The duck like bill on a platypus is able to sense electrical fields of other organisms. Scientists say that Dinosaurs became birds. Argonians are lizard-like. Therefore I conclude that Argonians are an early form of Monotremes, as evidenced by the feathers they have on some Argonians.

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Leah
 
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Post » Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:48 am

Argonians have characteristics of amphibians, reptiles, and mammals. They are a unique species, to say the least.
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Steph
 
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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:04 pm

Interesting. So Khajit women also have two briasts but are a feline species, shouldnt they have six briasts?
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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:42 pm

Khajiit are feline, but have aspects of humans as well, such as opposable thumbs, the ability to speak, and intelligence. So why not two briasts?
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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:18 pm

Khajiit are actually Elves that have undergone a type of transformation.
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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:34 pm


Wow, hows that work?
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Nancy RIP
 
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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:18 pm

some Breeds of Khajiit might,

we only see the Suthay-Raht and Cathay in game since Morrowind

there are several other breeds of Khajiit (heck the Ohmes look like Bosmer)..

I bet you the Alfiq would have 6 nipbles

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:22 pm

Azura did it.

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Veronica Flores
 
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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:22 pm

In the Merethic era, before their elven ancestors had concrete forms, Azura bound them to the Lunar Lattice so their forms would be dictated by the phases of the moons. The ancestors that didn't follow Azura followed Y'ffre and became Bosmer instead, bound to the Green Pact.

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Charity Hughes
 
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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:37 am

The first sentence negates the second.

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Danny Blight
 
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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:52 pm

The problem with that is that monotremes don't have feathers and are nowhere near related to birds or modern reptiles. The common ancestor of all mammals, including monotremes, split apart from the line leading to all birds/reptiles long before dinosaurs even existed.

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:05 am

Argonians- don't try and explain them. Don't try and go like, "They're like 'x' species!" Because you know what, they're not, they're a whole thing unto themselves.

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:30 pm

I agree. Trying to translate an Argonian or Khajiit too precisely into some form of earth-bound genus and species is almost as futile as attempting it with an ice wraith or flame atronach. Different planet, different rules.

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:09 pm

The way I see it in regards to the beast races of the series (asides from Morrowind): Difference in races = different skeletons, meshes, animations, armour etc. = time & money.

Argonians have sharp teeth for a reason, and I doubt that reason is for briast feeding...

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:26 pm

I can't recall whether it was from speculation or actual lore, but someone on here once mentioned the possibility of the Hist giving the female Argonians apparent 'briasts' only to help them better integrate into the societies of humans and elves, who would be more willing to trust a lifeform that was similar in appearance to them as opposed to an entirely alien reptilian form.

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:49 pm

I'm fairly certain a Dev stated as such in an interview back in 2005 as an explanation as to why Argonians could wear shoes in Oblivion.

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Post » Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:46 am

The Saxhleel are whatever the Hist wants them to be. It just happens that they carry a lot of reptilian, some amphibian, and sapient characteristics.

I believe it's speculation, but it's speculation that wouldn't be surprising if it were true. There's plenty of instances and dialogue that point to the direction that the Saxhleel forms are very much in control of the Hist.

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:09 pm

Ohmes-Raht was the Khajiit species seen in TES I: Arena and TES II: Daggerfall.

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April D. F
 
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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:12 pm

Explanation being excuse :P

Heh, don't get me wrong, I understand that it makes their lives a lot easier since they don't have to worry about making separate animations/armour and all that. It just svcks that they ended up removing a feature that made Argonians and Khajiit stand out (despite their already unique looks, of course).

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:22 pm

I completely agree. I loved the way Argonians and Khajiit looked in Morrowind, and have never really been a big fan of lizards with mammary glands... :ermm:

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:29 am

I don't know. You don't see any nipbles on those things do you? :whistling:

Anyway, my theory is that on a biological level, they may not necessarily be for producing milk. They may simply be a feature for attracting mates, like the comb on a rooster or something.

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:32 pm

that makes alot of sense, I can see that being the reason.. I mean hey, anyone who has hung around a bar or nightclub before will tell you they also serve that purpose for people :P

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Post » Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:25 am

Reading all these posts, you begin to question whether this is a game or actually a history and culture of another civilisation. This game is the Best

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:04 pm

Where are the Cathay? All khajiit I've seen in the last three games are all Suthay-Raht.

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:10 pm

From http://www.imperial-library.info/content/forum-archives-others. And here's the wikipedia page on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovoviviparity. Hope that helps.

As for lizard briasts, apparently that was a contentious point once upon a time in the Morrowind community? BTB's Morrowind Mod list mentions it a lot, usually with exasperation.

On Khajiit: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Ohmes were the race in Arena/Daggerfall. The Cathay-Raht were the ones we see in Morrowind; I think the race of Khajiit we see in Oblivion/Skyrim is different, because of the differences in how they walk. Maybe Cathay or Ohmes-Raht?

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