Argonians - beast races anatomy

Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:09 pm

Am I the only one who sees that blurred piece of artwork and sees an argonian that looks EXACTLY like they did in Oblivion? Lizard face and tail, but otherwise perfectly human-like anatomy. Look carefully at his legs; they are likes those of an human.

Oh darn it, that's gonna be my first great disappointment with Skyrim.... argonians that still look like humans with a reptile mask and a plastic tail.


I guess you just usually glance over things. Overall, it looks like Oblivion Argonians, but if you look closely, the posture, proportions, feet and hands are different.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:10 pm

as long as they finally realize that argonians do not have boobs or a navel? the thing your are connected with before you where born thingy. those are mammal only and they are reptiles they come out of eggs and do not briastfeed or have that thing on yr tummy of which I don't know how it's called in english.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:40 am

The legs don't look human to me, if you think about it. You can see the boots bend forward and stick out a bit at the back, suggesting a curve further down and out of view. Read my post a few posts above to see a (slightly exaggerated as it's all I could find) view of what I mean. As for the tail, it looks to be longer and thicker here.

That's how human legs are portrayed a lot of the time though. They're never just straight down. It still looks very human to me. But I think the tail looks better, and it seems like they have more claw-like hands.

In the end though we won't know until we actually see them in game.

as long as they finally realize that argonians do not have boobs or a navel? the thing your are connected with before you where born thingy. those are mammal only and they are reptiles they come out of eggs and do not briastfeed or have that thing on yr tummy of which I don't know how it's called in english.

Argonians =/= earth reptiles

They're similar, but they should never be bound just because of an earthly rule.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:05 pm

That's how human legs are portrayed a lot of the time though. They're never just straight down. It still looks very human to me. But I think the tail looks better, and it seems like they have more claw-like hands.

In the end though we won't know until we actually see them in game.


It's the feet. Look at the feet. They are not human-like.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:07 pm

as long as they finally realize that argonians do not have boobs or a navel? the thing your are connected with before you where born thingy. those are mammal only and they are reptiles they come out of eggs and do not briastfeed or have that thing on yr tummy of which I don't know how it's called in english.

It's their game. They are free to make Argonian anatomy be however they please. I think they explained the "briast" thing before but I don't remember what the answer was. The short of it was they are intentional though.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:50 am

It's the feet. Look at the feet. They are not human-like.

It's just concept art. To me the feet look kind of blurred out, and not carefully drawn, especially since the view is on an angle.

But if I had to judge them I still think they look human. They look like they're just laying flat on the ground, like a humans.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:59 am

Looks about right to me, but then again maybe i'm biased because I'd far rather they were humanoid style legs than the beast-style we saw in Morrowind.

Either way, the concept art looks incredible, and whether the legs are beast-style or humanoid, if they look similar to the art i'll be happy.
^_^

I'm convinced it's wishfull thinking. I would have preferred the Morrowind style legs, or rather legs like the Draenei concept art I posted earlier, but even I'm convinced those are just calves. They may not look human (Shocking, I know, seeing as it's a lizardman) but I'm convinced they're calves nonetheless.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:40 pm

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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:13 pm

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How about none?
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:43 pm

How about none?


what I was sayin
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:10 pm

as long as they finally realize that argonians do not have boobs or a navel? the thing your are connected with before you where born thingy. those are mammal only and they are reptiles they come out of eggs and do not briastfeed or have that thing on yr tummy of which I don't know how it's called in english.

To hard to make all armor specialised for them, and I doubt Argonian ladies use male clothes so they have to wear lady clothes and armor.
Lizards with boobs is less strange than the Khajiit subtypes.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:41 am

who cares if the argonian has beast legs..

HE'S HOLDING A SPEAR PEOPLE!!!!
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:20 am

Argonians =/= earth reptiles

They're similar, but they should never be bound just because of an earthly rule.


They shouldn't have navels though. They've been said by a developer to be oviviparous (spelling?) which means that they incubate their eggs internally and give birth to live young but they still have eggs rather than carrying a fetus in a womb.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:51 pm

Argonians can be like in Oblivion for all I care, but it'd be cool if Khajiits could run four legs.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:16 am

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Actually, that's khajiit. The word "litter" is used when referring to khajiit children, so they have more than one at a time, so that would make sense. Judging from previous incarnations, only the top pair is "expressed", though :hehe:

I bet Argonians will have boobs though, it is an easy way for a human to regocnize something as a female. Didn't they have in Daggerfall too?
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:41 pm

who cares if the argonian has beast legs..

HE'S HOLDING A SPEAR PEOPLE!!!!


He's holding a weapon that has a long wooden handle. We can't see the top. It could be a spear, or it could be anything else with a long handle, such as a magic staff.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:48 pm

They remind me of raptor feet silhouettes, with the dew-claw against the ground.



Do not temt the dino-nerd to go into nerdgasm!

I also like it. While I did find the beast-walk a little silly in Morrowind, I did like it better than the "New texture with tail and new head"-thing they had in Oblivion. It's a blurry picture, but it seems to be the best of both worlds. Human-like enough that armour will most likely not be that big of a concern, but beastlike enough to look original without going into anything too silly.

I hope for even more diversity between them. There are a lot of different shapes when it comes to reptiles and dinosaurs (To us picky nerds, dinosaurs aren't reptiles :P ).

Another thing about argonians: How is it with cold bloodedness? Yes, reptiles and amphibians, on wich they're based, are cold blooded, but I don't think that nesseserilly makes argonians coldblooded. What does the lore say about it?
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:22 pm

I really do not understand all the people on this forum talking about how Lizard legs should be all bent and such. Have any of you actually seen a lizard?!
Seriously, when I hold my Bearded Dragon And his legs are vertical, they draw the same profile as mine do.
The point is, Morrowind had lizard legs so completely wrong its crazy. Have you seen a Chinese Water Dragon run across water?
It runs similarly to the way we do except in more of a paddling way since its water and not solid ground.
but the sequence is still the same to humans, knee bent like ours to bring the foot forward and so on.
These are not ostriches.


I have a Chinese Water Dragon but he pretty much hangs out on a branch or sometimes lays in his pool. :) Anyway. Skyrim Argonian design is fine. Never liked the beast race legs in MW regardless of the no boots thing or not. In Arena and Daggerfall Argonians were 'more' human than either MW or OB so which is correct? The answer is whatever the designers want them to look like.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:06 am

I hope they turn up like that in the game, I think that looks really cool :woot:
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:04 pm

legs look lame

SUPER EDIT: OK

just noticed THE SPEAR

so now I don't give a **** they can give them duck legs for all I care we got spears back.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:20 pm

If this is how Argonians are going to look like im very pleased. It certanly look alot better in the art shown here then they did in oblivion. Like how the tail actually look a bit more realistic instead of a thing going straight out from your butt. legs I'm fine with whatever they decide, aslong it doesnt turn out to look horrible. Morowind style legs would look cool if designed good and with good running animation.

Wouldnt mind at all really if it where limitations to armor etc. aslong there was armors specificly for them. Would be cool to not be able to get just any armor but have to look up argonian made ones. But I strongly belive this wont be the case, as that would probably not appeal to all players. Especially not more casual gamers who'd be frustrated that they cant waer the high lvl armor they got from killing that bandit or something.

Depending how they end up in the real game I might play one as starter, liked them was only bit disapointed in the design in Oblivion
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:17 pm

They shouldn't have navels though. They've been said by a developer to be oviviparous (spelling?) which means that they incubate their eggs internally and give birth to live young but they still have eggs rather than carrying a fetus in a womb.

And why not? Because that's how it is on earth?

How do you know navels don't serve a different purpose on Nirn?

(I know it sounds ridiculous, but the point remains)
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:40 pm

Seriously? When did this thread change it's topic from Argnoians to Spears? Oh, it didn't.
Not trying to sound pissy, but keep the speargasms in the spear thread please, it's not what this topic is for.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:51 pm

legs look lame

SUPER EDIT: OK

just noticed THE SPEAR

so now I don't give a **** they can give them duck legs for all I care we got spears back.


I know you guys really want spears back but so far all we know is that thing he's holding is a wooden stick... nothing more. You can choose to believe it's a spear, but it's far from confirmation. Not to mention not all concept art makes it into the game...
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:35 pm

To be honest I think that looks better than both Morrowind and Oblivion style Argonians despite it being from behind.

Although... My dream Argonian would have Thane Krios-like voice and the legs of a Sangheili or Turian.
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