Do Argonians lay eggs?

Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:36 pm

Yes Argonians lay eggs, they are reptiles, and it has been mentioned in lore and in game multiple times.
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:59 am

Yes Argonians lay eggs, they are reptiles, and it has been mentioned in lore and in game multiple times.

did you not read ANY of the other posts?
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Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:13 pm

did you not read ANY of the other posts?

no, I'm lazy :meh:
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Adrian Powers
 
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:09 am

do obviousaurs have briasts tho? cause argonians have briasts


You seem kind of hung up on Argonian briasts.

A quick biology lesson:

briasts are something only primates have. Look at any other mammal, all they have are nipbles. Argonians also have hands (also primate-only) and vocal chords. All the above evidence points to Argonians as being great apes.

Oh wait, they also have tails, which apes don't. I guess that means Argonians are monkeys instead.
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:24 am

You seem kind of hung up on Argonian briasts.

A quick biology lesson:

briasts are something only primates have. Look at any other mammal, all they have are nipbles. Argonians also have hands (also primate-only) and vocal chords. All the above evidence points to Argonians as being great apes.

Oh wait, they also have tails, which apes don't. I guess that means Argonians are monkeys instead.

that was my point tho. they have briastickles there for they dont lay eggs
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Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:57 pm

A dev hinted it depends on the environment. In warmer places, expect eggs around. In colder climates, don't.
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:40 am

You seem kind of hung up on Argonian briasts.

A quick biology lesson:

briasts are something only primates have. Look at any other mammal, all they have are nipbles. Argonians also have hands (also primate-only) and vocal chords. All the above evidence points to Argonians as being great apes.

Oh wait, they also have tails, which apes don't. I guess that means Argonians are monkeys instead.


you come into a fantasy game's forum and try to actually classify argonians as something that exists in the real world by our science? Hmmm.... Yeah, not working for me buddy.
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:56 am

you come into a fantasy game's forum and try to actually classify argonians as something that exists in the real world by our science? Hmmm.... Yeah, not working for me buddy.


You should have your sarcasm detector looked at. Looks like it's on the fritz.
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:03 am

The argonians are completely controlled by the hist. The hist gives them minds, it shapes their bodies, they are a living extension of the hist. If the hist wants argonians to be warm blooded they become warm blooded. They do not only worship the hist, they are a part of it
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:56 am

I believe so because of the term "hatchling"
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Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:33 pm

*Crackpot theory warning*

Maybe Argonians can choose to do either. There are large advantages to having that option.

For dangerous places or times (ie as slaves) they would do it internally. Like sharks, the hatchlings will feed on each other until only the strongest survives to be born. This ensures a strong individual, suitable for battle and hunting in a dangerous time where food might not be readily available. This individual would have greater combat powers but lesser magic powers.

For calm peaceful times in warm climate, they would laid eggs. This allows multiple brood and expands the porpulation faster. Also, there would more likely be food to feed more mouth. Lastly, the eggs can be stored closer to the Hist and allow it to influence the growth of a hatchling. This individual would have greater magic powers but lesser combat powers.

*end crackpot theory*
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:39 am

Imagine failing the quest by scrambling up the egg and eating it...
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:47 am

I like the theory I've see a user post a few times(forget who) but he/she pretty much says that in a safe environment(ie Black Marsh) that Argonians would lay their eggs, but in unsafe places(anywhere outside of Black Marsh) they would be ovi- however the hell you spell that word.
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Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:48 pm

yet they have mammary glands....

Someone sure is obssessed with lizard boobs
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Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:13 pm

I don't buy this oviviparous stuff, no dev has ever used that word, nor has Pete Hines. Anyone have a link to pete saying that they don't lay eggs? In the Oblivion dark brotherhood quests they explain shadowscales with the word hatchling several times, they are trained from the time they hatch, when they are still hatchlings, etc. It seems like flawed logic to me that they would call their young hatchlings if they were born live from a womb. Unless the egg shell is also expelled during birth? It just makes much more sense for them to hatch from eggs outside of the mother's body. And as for all this whining about the females having briasts, it makes no difference whatsoever. Platypus babys hatch from external eggs and then feed from their mothers briastmilk. In my mind, argonians lay eggs in nests among hist roots and then the babies hatch. Although I don't think the hatchlings nurse from their mothers, the briasts are likely just aesthetic.
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:17 am

that is just [censored] disgusting



do YOU think i want to walk down a road and see some fish lay eggs in front of me?!


Could be a fun quest
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Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:08 pm

You seem kind of hung up on Argonian briasts.

A quick biology lesson:

briasts are something only primates have. Look at any other mammal, all they have are nipbles. Argonians also have hands (also primate-only) and vocal chords. All the above evidence points to Argonians as being great apes.

Oh wait, they also have tails, which apes don't. I guess that means Argonians are monkeys instead.

The problem here is that there is no indication, as far as I know anyway, that Argonians have nipbles. In fact, http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6733/argonian2.png

So, no mammaries, just mounds of fat on female chests. If we apply real world ideas to it, they're probably solely a mating construct, not unusual in the animal kingdom.

If we apply TES ideas to it, the gods made so all the sentient races are able to interbreed, and thus attempted to make them all, in some way, able to attract the others.
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:50 am

You seem kind of hung up on Argonian briasts.

A quick biology lesson:

briasts are something only primates have. Look at any other mammal, all they have are nipbles. Argonians also have hands (also primate-only) and vocal chords. All the above evidence points to Argonians as being great apes.

Oh wait, they also have tails, which apes don't. I guess that means Argonians are monkeys instead.


So.....

What are Dragons?
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:48 am

*Crackpot theory warning*

Maybe Argonians can choose to do either. There are large advantages to having that option.

For dangerous places or times (ie as slaves) they would do it internally. Like sharks, the hatchlings will feed on each other until only the strongest survives to be born. This ensures a strong individual, suitable for battle and hunting in a dangerous time where food might not be readily available. This individual would have greater combat powers but lesser magic powers.

For calm peaceful times in warm climate, they would laid eggs. This allows multiple brood and expands the porpulation faster. Also, there would more likely be food to feed more mouth. Lastly, the eggs can be stored closer to the Hist and allow it to influence the growth of a hatchling. This individual would have greater magic powers but lesser combat powers.

*end crackpot theory*
This is somewhat what a dev said about if argonians lay eggs or not. To this date, there is nothing to contradict his statement.
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:50 am

I don't buy this oviviparous stuff, no dev has ever used that word, nor has Pete Hines. Anyone have a link to pete saying that they don't lay eggs? In the Oblivion dark brotherhood quests they explain shadowscales with the word hatchling several times, they are trained from the time they hatch, when they are still hatchlings, etc. It seems like flawed logic to me that they would call their young hatchlings if they were born live from a womb. Unless the egg shell is also expelled during birth? It just makes much more sense for them to hatch from eggs outside of the mother's body. And as for all this whining about the females having briasts, it makes no difference whatsoever. Platypus babys hatch from external eggs and then feed from their mothers briastmilk. In my mind, argonians lay eggs in nests among hist roots and then the babies hatch. Although I don't think the hatchlings nurse from their mothers, the briasts are likely just aesthetic.


I dont see how one cant understand. I mean you cant get anymore simpler than 'Eggs kept internally and hatch internally, Hatchlings are expelled from the body'
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Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:52 pm

*Crackpot theory warning*

Maybe Argonians can choose to do either. There are large advantages to having that option.

For dangerous places or times (ie as slaves) they would do it internally. Like sharks, the hatchlings will feed on each other until only the strongest survives to be born. This ensures a strong individual, suitable for battle and hunting in a dangerous time where food might not be readily available. This individual would have greater combat powers but lesser magic powers.

For calm peaceful times in warm climate, they would laid eggs. This allows multiple brood and expands the porpulation faster. Also, there would more likely be food to feed more mouth. Lastly, the eggs can be stored closer to the Hist and allow it to influence the growth of a hatchling. This individual would have greater magic powers but lesser combat powers.

*end crackpot theory*

Wish I would have read this before I posted, this is the first theory I've heard that I like. Sea turtles, for example, can hold their eggs for up to an extra 5 weeks waiting for the perfect time to deposit them. Its feasible that the argonians could choose whether or not to lay their eggs or carry them until just before they are ready to hatch
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Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:44 pm

In Greg Keyes books that are based on TES Lore it states that the Hist trees will adapt the Argonians according to what they need in their environment.

That includes limb changes, etc. Meaning Argonians aren't really anything but adaptable by the Hist.
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Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:10 pm

In Greg Keyes books that are based on TES Lore it states that the Hist trees will adapt the Argonians according to what they need in their environment.

That includes limb changes, etc. Meaning Argonians aren't really anything but adaptable by the Hist.

This can be seen in the different "clans" of Argonians. Some have wings, some are taller and more snake-like, etc.
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:08 am

I dont see how one cant understand. I mean you cant get anymore simpler than 'Eggs kept internally and hatch internally, Hatchlings are expelled from the body'

I clearly understand what the word means, I read the wikipedia article too. But it doesnt justify argonians calling their young hatchlings, if they are expelled from the body as live young. Unless, as I said, the egg shell is expelled as afterbirth
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Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:34 pm

i think i read somewere that baby Argonians feed on the sap from the Hist (sentient trees from Black-Marsh.) maybe the nurse as well, though its hard to tell since without mods there is no way to tell if argonians have nipbles.

nope, eery argonian licks hist sap once in his/her life on his/her naming day (altough i assume they could do it more times if they wanted, it acts like a very powerful drug in other creatures [as seen in oblivion when you got high on hist sap and went on a bad trip killing a town before waking up] but i dont know all of the effects on an advlt argonian) the ammount of sap they ingest will affect what they look like when they get older. and no argonian before his naming day (a baby argonian) has hist sap

the more you know :tongue:
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