Armors without multiple parts

Post » Wed May 18, 2011 8:41 pm

If the greaves are the same in both screenshots, it's possible "single-suit" means the cuirass and the greaves combined.


I wouldn't like that, but it would be something I could live with. But it looked to me like the greaves are different. I guess its impossible to tell from the angle of the newest screen.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 8:39 pm

Images rarely prove anything. They never tell the full story and sometimes flatout lie. You can look at an image and make a guess, but that doesn't make it true. For all you know, there are things going on that you are unaware of that completely changes what you THINK you see.
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Images rarely prove anything. They never tell the full story and sometimes flatout lie. You can look at an image and make a guess, but that doesn't make it true. For all you know, there are things going on that you are unaware of that completely changes what you THINK you see.



So basically, what you're saying is, the "Spider Hero" screenshot, the Hero doesn't have Bracers on. Wow, I need to get my eyes checked.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 7:58 pm

If the greaves are the same in both screenshots, it's possible "single-suit" means the cuirass and the greaves combined.


Or it just means that those greaves are cool looking, and perfect for screenshots. ;)
But yes, it is possible, but unlikely. :D
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 2:36 am

So basically, what you're saying is, the "Spider Hero" screenshot, the Hero doesn't have Bracers on. Wow, I need to get my eyes checked.


Nope, they are just an illusion. I blinked a few times and realized they aren't really there.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 11:18 pm

I wouldn't like that, but it would be something I could live with. But it looked to me like the greaves are different. I guess its impossible to tell from the angle of the newest screen.



Or it just means that those greaves are cool looking, and perfect for screenshots. ;)
But yes, it is possible, but unlikely. :D



I could definitely live with Body+Legs being one slot. I can't think of a situation where I'd set it up any other way, anyway. That's why I like skirts in Morrowind, to hide the ugly mismatch of something like Glass+Chitin legs until I get some Greaves.

Of course, there will be some people who aren't happy until we can equip each articulation in our hands separately(First Metacarpal R. Second Metacarpal R.). But whatever. I'd be fine with Hands+Helm+Feet+Core(Body/UpperLegs) + Accessories (2 rings and a necklace)

Nope, they are just an illusion. I blinked a few times and realized they aren't really there.


Buzzkillington above probably meant something like "They're probably different armors" and while I certainly can't say 100% that they aren't, I looked very carefully at things like the rivets on the scales, and the trimming around the arms/waist, and decided it was pretty clear it was the same Cuirass.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 2:14 am

@teambrady Armor is comprised of separate pieces.

How doesn't this confirm anything? Pete said this on May 25, only about a week and a half ago. I highly doubt they changed it since then, in that short amount of time. Why is this still a debate? With what The_ugly_guy_at_the_Store said and this, we are good. We just don't know which pieces are in. Curiass(sp) and greaves might be together.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 2:32 am

I'm not even concerned I'm getting Skyrim regardless, if it's true or false.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 11:40 pm

So what conclusion have we come to?
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 1:27 am

Buzzkillington above probably meant something like "They're probably different armors" and while I certainly can't say 100% that they aren't, I looked very carefully at things like the rivets on the scales, and the trimming around the arms/waist, and decided it was pretty clear it was the same Cuirass.


I'm not saying that they are, I'm saying that you cannot be certain.

I've seen too many photographs that make buildings look bigger or better than they really are. I've seen buildings that have won awards from prominent organizations that are only ever photographed from a few angles because the rest look like crap. I've seen too many images that give false impressions to be so trusting of them. And I'm not even talking about doctored ones.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 7:22 am

I'm not saying that they are, I'm saying that you cannot be certain.

I've seen too many photographs that make buildings look bigger or better than they really are. I've seen buildings that have won awards from prominent organizations that are only ever photographed from a few angles because the rest look like crap. I've seen too many images that give false impressions to be so trusting of them. And I'm not even talking about doctored ones.



I just fail to see your point in the context though. It's pretty clear to me that there's Bracers in one screenshot, and not the other. There's only two possible arguments, 1.) One screenshot was a different build of the game, or 2.) They're actually different armors completely, and Bethesda added the Bracers to the new armor, but didn't even bother to reskin the same armor.


As far as I'm concerned, and I think an overwhelming majority will agree, the screenshots are more compelling evidence than a out-of-context words from a magazine. That's all I'm saying.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 8:34 am

Well considering the question asked on twitter, with Petes answer that would be some serious trollage if he didn't mean all the parts in the question.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 4:32 am

I just fail to see your point in the context though. It's pretty clear to me that there's Bracers in one screenshot, and not the other. There's only two possible arguments, 1.) One screenshot was a different build of the game, or 2.) They're actually different armors completely, and Bethesda added the Bracers to the new armor, but didn't even bother to reskin the same armor.


As far as I'm concerned, and I think an overwhelming majority will agree, the screenshots are more compelling evidence than a out-of-context words from a magazine. That's all I'm saying.


Or 3) it's a variation of the same armor. That they come in a set, but different versions with modified appearances and stats, but still clearly related to each other.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 3:04 am

Or 3) it's a variation of the same armor. That they come in a set, but different versions with modified appearances and stats, but still clearly related to each other.



Nobody is talking about "Mixmatch" right now, just that Armor is comprised of separate pieces. A lot of people are implying that means the same thing, I am most definitely not, so you can please retract that lie.
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I just fail to see your point in the context though. It's pretty clear to me that there's Bracers in one screenshot, and not the other. There's only two possible arguments, 1.) One screenshot was a different build of the game, or 2.) They're actually different armors completely, and Bethesda added the Bracers to the new armor, but didn't even bother to reskin the same armor.

As far as I'm concerned, and I think an overwhelming majority will agree, the screenshots are more compelling evidence than a out-of-context words from a magazine. That's all I'm saying.

Look at Fallout. There were many variations of bandit armor that shared some pieces and not others, etc., yet each armor set was itself a single item.

As such, the images can't really be used to prove that the arrangements of armor indicate separate armor pieces.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 9:26 pm

Pete Hines, twitter:
Guys, armor question is in the fan interview. As I said, it's not Fallout 3, one piece. Beyond that, stay tuned.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 12:33 am

Pete Hines, twitter:
Guys, armor question is in the fan interview. As I said, it's not Fallout 3, one piece. Beyond that, stay tuned.


Thank you for (partially) clearing that up.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 4:10 am

Pete Hines, twitter:
Guys, armor question is in the fan interview. As I said, it's not Fallout 3, one piece. Beyond that, stay tuned.


Well, we know its at least 2 pieces now, at minimum.

I'm glad this is a question thats in the fan interview thought, I'd like to know how many pieces there are.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 7:45 am

"... it's not Fallout 3, one piece..."

That makes me think that maybe the armor sets (aside from helms) are one piece, but when we craft the armor ourselves, we get to choose what the shoulders/chest/legs/boots/gloves/bracers look like.

We then craft it, and it's one whole piece together.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 2:26 am

"... it's not Fallout 3, one piece..."

That makes me think that maybe the armor sets (aside from helms) are one piece, but when we craft the armor ourselves, we get to choose what the shoulders/chest/legs/boots/gloves/bracers look like.

We then craft it, and it's one whole piece together.


I'm getting scared here, I want to have a piece of armor for everything. It will be fun to collect full armor sets.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 4:23 am

"... it's not Fallout 3, one piece..."

That makes me think that maybe the armor sets (aside from helms) are one piece, but when we craft the armor ourselves, we get to choose what the shoulders/chest/legs/boots/gloves/bracers look like.


Thats exactly how it was in FO3...

Why would Pete say its not Fallout 3, if it was fallout 3 with a little more detail. Doesn't make sense. Plus, what if you don't want that character to craft?
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 4:45 am

Pete Hines, twitter:
Guys, armor question is in the fan interview. As I said, it's not Fallout 3, one piece. Beyond that, stay tuned.


Now I'm hoping for a new system, or a diffent take then anything we've seen in past games...hurry up E3!
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 2:59 am

Yeah, glad for the answer, although now I'm going to be even more anxious to see that fan interview and read the details :)
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 6:55 am

Thats exactly how it was in FO3...

Why would Pete say its not Fallout 3, if it was fallout 3 with a little more detail. Doesn't make sense. Plus, what if you don't want that character to craft?


Well he said, "it's not fallout 3, one piece.."

So, the way he said it, it sounds like it's one piece, but just not the way it is in fallout 3.

Which makes no sense to me.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 11:22 pm

Look at Fallout. There were many variations of bandit armor that shared some pieces and not others, etc., yet each armor set was itself a single item.

As such, the images can't really be used to prove that the arrangements of armor indicate separate armor pieces.



No. Sadist, Blastmaster and Painspike armor all looked very different from each other. If you're talking about New Vegas, well, some of the Pre-Order Armors did, such as the Lightweight Metal Armor lacking Pauldrons (And the LW Leather), but I already covered this possibility. I wish people would read.



Because you'll probably just argue against it without reading

2.) They're actually different armors completely, and Bethesda added the Bracers to the new armor, but didn't even bother to reskin the same armor.

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