[IDEA] Aspergers in Morrowind

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:32 am

Hey guys, I'm Italian and I've got borderline dementia. Can we make a race of sixy, curly-haired tan guys with cool mustaches that have +5 in pizza making skills, +10 to the obnoxious laugh attribute, and -5 to their speechcraft, and who like to take all their clothes off and beat NPCs over the head with large loafs of prosciutto and paintings from Da Vinci?

Thanks! :D

:lol: Thanks for the mental imagery!

Hmm, sounds like this would be a great NPC to populate Starwarsguy's Shivering Isles mod, or some shrine to Sheogorath or something. :P

EDIT: Please don't take that the wrong way or anything, it isn't meant as an insult in anyway. I've got my own problems, too, so I know that mental disorders (I hate that term) are serious and nothing to flippantly dismiss. :)
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:43 am

:lol: Thanks for the mental imagery!

Hmm, sounds like this would be a great NPC to populate Starwarsguy's Shivering Isles mod, or some shrine to Sheogorath or something. :P

EDIT: Please don't take that the wrong way or anything, it isn't meant as an insult in anyway. I've got my own problems, too, so I know that mental disorders (I hate that term) are serious and nothing to flippantly dismiss. :)


Oh! No. It's fine. I think it's perfectly acceptable for people to probe fun at my dementia. I especially liked it when all the kids in high school used to trip me when I have my lunch tray in my hands, causing me to get F-Grade hamburger and fake macaroni and cheese all over me. I used to laugh with them. Though I never was quite so sure what they found to be so funny, but they all sure were pointing at me....
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:34 am

It's a form of high-functioning autism. An Asperger's sufferer (I do not use the term lightly; mine has DEFINITELY caused me to suffer) has a brain that is wired differently from a normal person, in ways that is most prevalent in social situations. We tend to develop intense interests in narrow fields and go out of our way to learn everything there is to know about that subject, because we think it's the coolest thing in the world ("savantlike behavior"). We don't pick up the social cues that come naturally to neurotypicals - I mentioned in a previous thread that sarcasm tends to escape me, fir instance. Sometimes we display what others deem "inappropriate" facial expressions, but that's usually because either the situation reminded us of something else and our train of thought led us to that expression, or because we're simply not paying attention to what's being displayed on our faces (people often ask me if I'm upset, when in fact I'm feeling perfectly fine and my face only looks downcast because I'm not using any muscles in it). In conversation, we often get fixated on one topic and are hard to shake from it; this effect is greater when said topic relates to our choice of savantness.


What the wall of Text said. :)

As for me, I don't suffer too much. I find that Prozac, Abilify, and my Lipitor keep me fine. Yes, I have high Cholesterol. I also weigh as much as a small mountain. :(

Yeah, our brains are really wired differently at times. At least, I think I am. Considering I can write stories that are so disturbing that they would make your hair fall out. :)

I for one would like to see this mod come to pass. Let me know what I can do to help. Also, I do have a bit of OCD, but I so wouldn't tell people that there are 4511 wickwheats. :)

Give me a better dialog, like, "It's over 9000!" :rofl:
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:07 pm

Would an Asperger person get on better with another? Or would it be doubly disastrous with twice the lack of empathy?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:10 am

I'm seriously considering going for it. It might be a fun side project to work on when I'm about to strangle someone because of GDR. (Seriously, has anyone tried putting Darknut's in_dwrv_tubecorridor meshes together? Aargh!)

-JKS



What? they snap to grid ..... except for a couple of the generic parts that are used for multiple things.... what is the problem

Did you read the readme thoroughly? ..... it explains how it all goes together
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:10 am

Hmm, sounds like this would be a great NPC to populate Starwarsguy's Shivering Isles mod, or some shrine to Sheogorath or something. :P

(sarcasm tags DEFINETELY needed on this thread) [sarcasm]starwarsuy is making a Shivering Isles mod? Sweet! Is there a WIP thread for it?[/sarcasm]

I'm not making all of the Shivering Isles, that would be a massive project, and I'm already busy with Cyrodiil, I'm just taking over Melchior Darhk's Sheoth Weapons mod, which takes place on a small island in the Mania style. So if I wanted to put some maniacs around there, it would definitively fit. :lol:

@Plangkye and Pluto: Thanks for your descriptions, helps me understand a lot better than that extremely complexly worded wikipedia page, I'm no psycologist, I can't understand most of what's said on it.

I don't have Aspenger's myself, at least not that I know of, but I do have a unique way of thinking, as observed by several psycologists and myself: I think slower than normal people do, and generally process thoughts differently then most people, that could explain me being the crazy active modder I am at my age. Unfortunately for me, I constantly have to fight to keep my sanity with the teenage brain and body I have- being a teenager, I find myself being full of myself a lot, and in real life, I am easily aggrivated. I can fight though some of these things, to remain the person I want to be, but it's always annoying having these things to deal with all of the time. I just hope it will *fade away* as my brain and body mature further physically.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:15 am

(sarcasm tags DEFINETELY needed on this thread) [sarcasm]starwarsuy is making a Shivering Isles mod? Sweet! Is there a WIP thread for it?[/sarcasm]

Thanks. :P I don't have Asperger's, but mood is really hard to discern from just plain text, and it is easy to misinterpret the intent behind the words...

Yeah, the new sheoth thingy. Not the entire Isles, I know that, just a Sheogorath-themed realm. :P
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:07 pm

merunnin: At least in my experience, Aspergians get along quite well with each other as long as their savant-ish skills don't overlap. I've almost never had a full-on argument with another Aspie - spirited debate, yes, but argument no. The only example of 'conflict' I can give you is when another Aspie came to my house and decided it would be a good idea to start putting my books in alphabetical order. I like them by series. We got into a spirited debate about that and he agreed to live with it while in my house so long as I didn't come over and start rearranging his.

Darknut: Really? They snap to a grid? I tried it and got overlapping, flickering meshes. I tried it on 64, 32, 16, 8, 4, 2, and then gave up. The straight ones snap fine on 32, I think it was, but trying to put in the tube-to-corridor piece made me rip out my hair. And forget the angles. However, I did not know that something was in the readme (or didn't remember, it's been a while since I DL'd your resources). I'm going to check again. Thanks for the heads up and I hope I didn't offend you. Those pieces are amazing, they just drive me nuts.

Also, back on topic, http://www.geocities.com/autistry/YMBAAI.html is a humor-filled, and yet spot on, look at Aspergers I found. Anyone who has/understands the 'disability' (heck, it's more like an ABILITY sometimes) to check this out. If you understand AS, it's funny. Otherwise, it's awkward. Some of these will be making it into the mod. If you have suggestions for other YMBAAI, feel free to stick them here.

Didn't think this thread would be so popular :celebration:

-JKS
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:38 pm

Also, back on topic, http://www.geocities.com/autistry/YMBAAI.html is a humor-filled, and yet spot on, look at Aspergers I found.

Some of those are much too vague, and could apply to anyone, but I have to agree that many are spot on for me.

(If you are told you are funny or rude, you ruminate about it for weeks, replaying your words in your head and trying to find the parts you might find funny or rude, if you did not know they were meant to be funny or rude.) :biglaugh: yes

Depending on how you reply to the NPCs questions, they could be ruminating about your answer from that point on.

Plangkye had a good idea with the books. It could be a major trait for the NPCs to obsess on, since they don't have much else for collegiate entertainment in Morrowind. Besides counting whickweat.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:23 am

Some of those are much too vague, and could apply to anyone, but I have to agree that many are spot on for me.

(If you are told you are funny or rude, you ruminate about it for weeks, replaying your words in your head and trying to find the parts you might find funny or rude, if you did not know they were meant to be funny or rude.) :biglaugh: yes

Reading some of these, and this one, are spot on... I think I might be an aspie (or have some form of it) too... more of OCD though.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:12 pm

Aspergian traits are present in many disorders, I've noticed. I, myself, was misdiagnosed with ADHD, then ADD, OCD, and Schizophrenia before they finally discovered Aspergers. A few tests later, I had a diagnosis. Sometimes, traits bleed in and out of other conditions, which makes diagnosis difficult.

And, as a lover of books, I think the 'book obsession' thing is fantastic ;)

-JKS
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:23 am

Hey guys I have a spastic colon. I was thinking it would be cool to have a race in Morrowind - "Spastic Colonoids". They could have lower speed and agility to simulate their abdominal pain but higher Endurance because they're used to being in discomfort most of the time anyway. They also have to eat alchemical ingredients with a high level of dietary fibre regularly or suffer a huge hit to their stats. Whaddya think?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:05 am

Hey guys I have a spastic colon. I was thinking it would be cool to have a race in Morrowind - "Spastic Colonoids". They could have lower speed and agility to simulate their abdominal pain but higher Endurance because they're used to being in discomfort most of the time anyway. They also have to eat alchemical ingredients with a high level of dietary fibre regularly or suffer a huge hit to their stats. Whaddya think?

Go for it, but you can start your own thread for that mod, since this one focuses on creating something offering a different gameplay experience.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:59 pm

Forgive what may be a misinterpretation of the situation, but am I being mocked?

-JKS
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:28 am

Forgive what may be a misinterpretation of the situation, but am I being mocked?

-JKS

Doesn't seem like it to me.. seems like you've just started a revolution man. Starting modding revs is fun... when a bunch of people started making animated menus after I made mine, it was quite the party for me. :)
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:43 am

Also, back on topic, http://www.geocities.com/autistry/YMBAAI.html is a humor-filled, and yet spot on, look at Aspergers I found.



"...you choose the grocery aisle that you go down based on whether or not there are any other people in that aisle."

Wait, neurotypicals DON'T do this?! :blink:
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:45 pm

"...you choose the grocery aisle that you go down based on whether or not there are any other people in that aisle."

Wait, neurotypicals DON'T do this?! :blink:

Quest Idea:
NPC needs 8 ash yams, but will only accept them if certain criteria are met...
It must be raining, you're wearing a colovian fur helm, and the ash yams haven't brushed against any moonsugar in your inventory. :)

Also, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tribunal%3a%44etritus_Caria comes to mind.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:14 am

Forgive what may be a misinterpretation of the situation, but am I being mocked?

-JKS


Yes.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:23 am

Quest Idea:
NPC needs 8 ash yams, but will only accept them if certain criteria are met...
It must be raining, you're wearing a colovian fur helm, and the ash yams haven't brushed against any moonsugar in your inventory. :)

Also, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tribunal%3a%44etritus_Caria comes to mind.


Maybe http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind%3a%44rarayne_Thelas, too...
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:11 pm

Yes.


Please, elaborate on the reasoning behind your infantile behavior.

-JKS
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:46 am

I actually think this sounds neat. When I first read about Aspergers a few years ago, I started to wonder if perhaps I had it, since I have a serious aversion to social situations, dislike people in my personal space, which is about twice the comfort zone of most, and I avoid crowds because there is too much 'noise'. If I tried to explain the 'noise' thing, I think you'd all label me insane, so I'll just leave it at that. But since I thrive on sarcasm and irony, and actually have an overactive empathy streak that makes me want to fix anyone broken that I see, I think I may just have OCD with some social aversions tucked in it. Well, I'm positive on the OCD. My little 'tics' annoy me to death.

That said, to see Aspergers in Morrowind would actually be neat, I think. I'm all for mods that add stuff that is well 'outside the box', so long as it still fits the tone of the world. Very interesting idea, indeed.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:43 pm

Idea: Certain factions and locations would contain more Aspies than others. Like, I can't see there being many Aspie Hlaalu, but Telvanni? God yes. Or the Mages' and Thieves' Guilds. Mournhold craftsmen's hall. Library of Vivec, and Jobasha's Rare Books.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:00 pm

Hey guys I have a spastic colon. I was thinking it would be cool to have a race in Morrowind - "Spastic Colonoids". They could have lower speed and agility to simulate their abdominal pain but higher Endurance because they're used to being in discomfort most of the time anyway. They also have to eat alchemical ingredients with a high level of dietary fibre regularly or suffer a huge hit to their stats. Whaddya think?

I lol'ed. He's mosst definitely taking the cheek. But I'm sure it's nothing personal is it you cheeky bastard you!
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:16 pm

Look wot I stumpled upon: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html
At 23, I seem to be halfway there or some such.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:02 am

(No disrespect intended to anyone, if I do offend, just look at my signature :) )

I think some people are way too quick to self-diagnose mental conditions. People are built differently. It's possible to come across as antisocial and have quirks that people see as odd without having any medical problems. That's just their personality. They aren't necessarily autistic, or OCD, or "Aspies." That's just who they are. I understand that it is a real condition, and I'm sure that those of you who say that you've been clinically diagnosed are telling the truth. But hearing people say "I read about this condition and now I'm pretty sure I have it" is, in my experience, mostly bullcrap. They tell themselves that they have a medical condition so that they don't have to try any more. They can just act however they please, and if people don't like it, they have an easy out.

Just my opinion. :shrug:
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