Assault Carbine

Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:25 pm

Well before the patch I rarely used this gun at all. Now with it I am starting to use it a lot more now because it can actually kill people/creatures within 1 magazine. I used to use the All-American a lot (still do use it) but I like this weapon now. What are your guys opinion on it? Also ammo is a breeze to find. :gun:
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Elea Rossi
 
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:50 pm

Ratta-tat-tat.
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:10 am

Interesting story actually. I was at the Quarry junction and to cut to the chase Rex and Boone got knocked out and i had a Marksman carbine and i was sniping the Deathclaws with it...IT TOOK FOREVER and i used it so much my gun just broke. Then when there was just a few baby deathclaws left i pulled out my Assualt carbine and wrecked them. I was also perched up on a thing this whole time just sniping them. But yah Both those guns are pretty good.
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Post » Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:06 am

It uses the 5mm as opposed to the 5.56 correct? If so that explains the power as even though 5.56 is technically bigger that 5mm, 5mm is a larger round packing more punch. If you look at the reload statistics, it takes more materials to make a 5mm round than 5.56, more powder and more lead means more mass and velocity.

i am at work so i could be wrong would have to look it up at home but i think that is why it ia a stronger weapon.

Asai
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:15 pm

I love it after the patch only thing I dislike are the Iron sights as its hard to see through em

The patch has improved its hip spread making it possible at close range to avoid using the iron sights

Ammo isnt much of a problem due to 5mm being availble in large quantities
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:58 pm

Only problem i have: theres no Unique Variant. oh well, they seem to be a much better choice to use than before the patch.
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:31 pm

Aside from rather low damage it is pretty useful even pre-patch. Post patch it is a monster against armoured mobs
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:54 pm

It uses the 5mm as opposed to the 5.56 correct? If so that explains the power as even though 5.56 is technically bigger that 5mm, 5mm is a larger round packing more punch. If you look at the reload statistics, it takes more materials to make a 5mm round than 5.56, more powder and more lead means more mass and velocity.

i am at work so i could be wrong would have to look it up at home but i think that is why it ia a stronger weapon.

Asai

You are correct. It takes one more unit of both lead and powder. That makes the bullet somewhere in the 100gr range and with the same powder load as the .308, it should push the lighter (.308 ~ 160gr) bullet to much higher (~4000+ fps) velocities. That's where the DT bypass comes from.

Only problem i have: theres no Unique Variant. oh well, they seem to be a much better choice to use than before the patch.

That's what DLC are for, baby!

-Gunny out.
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:05 pm

I've always had a soft spot for the Assault Carbine even before the latest patch turned it into an insanely good weapon rather than a merely good one. It's arguably better than the high end shotguns even when they're perked up for CQB encounters with the new patch numbers. Perfect for the Vaults and other "turn the corner, oh sh----" moments in the interior dungeons of the game.
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Post » Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:45 am

Forget the Assault Carbine, CZ57 is THE weapon for CQB now.
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Post » Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:10 am

Forget the Assault Carbine, CZ57 is THE weapon for CQB now.

I went through v34 with a tricked out minigun. What a blast! 2-3 second bursts with zombie parts flyin' everywhere. Yup. The miniguns absolutely rule now.

(Disclaimer: I also modded the ROF up to 100 r/s and I think I also had 5mm HP, but still the things rule)

-Gunny out.
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Post » Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:20 am

As Much as I love High ROF weapons they seem to me such a waste in the wasteland
and I've never heard of an economical minigun :P
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:14 pm

I love the Assault Carbine. The gun looks awesome and it has a high DPS. Very effective against groups.

Speaking of easy to obtain ammo, I was buying ammo at Hoover Dam and they were selling over 5000 5mm bullets.
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:29 pm

As Much as I love High ROF weapons they seem to me such a waste in the wasteland
and I've never heard of an economical minigun :P


Yeah but they're fun aren't they? Fun > Economical
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Post » Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:07 am

I cant wait to get my new xbox so I can try out the new patch, sounds like from the way people are talking the assault carbine might finally be usefull for a change.
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:44 pm

Now only if some enemy actually USED good guns like the Assault Carbine, things might have been actually challenging.
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:20 pm

Nothing special imo :shrug: .
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:54 pm

I especially like it now after the recent patch that added armor piercing to default 5MM rounds making it ideal as a bread-and-butter rifle when sneaking is not an option in medium and short range combat
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:23 pm

You are correct. It takes one more unit of both lead and powder. That makes the bullet somewhere in the 100gr range and with the same powder load as the .308, it should push the lighter (.308 ~ 160gr) bullet to much higher (~4000+ fps) velocities. That's where the DT bypass comes from.


That's what DLC are for, baby!

-Gunny out.


I love this stuff, the detail oriented game play elements where there is always something to tinker with, something to tweak, something to test, and that feeling of YEA BABY! when something pans out. I love how just about ANYTHING in the game can be broken down or used intact as a component in another item. I spend literally hours with each character tweaking, poking and reloading the game on occasion lol, not everything works out as planned, but never stop asking "what if?".

Crafting and reloading aside from actually playing the game are my favorite things to do in FONV. I have a mod that adds more details into the reloading aspect of the game it also adds some more materials as drops like powder pistol or rifle, primers any of the 5 types the drops depend on what the adversary was using. If a legion scum is shooting a Cowboy Repeater since it is a .357 the legion scum will drop when killed (the only good legion scum is dead legion scum) so the scum will have some pistol powder, some small pistol primers, and a few .357 cases. Pretty awesome really. I buy up every bullet in the game that can be broken down and then break them down and then remake them even if it is 5mm to 5mm my bullets ARE better even if the game does not recognize it i do and that is all that matters. lol

Asai
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Post » Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:27 am

I love the Assault Carbine. The gun looks awesome and it has a high DPS. Very effective against groups.

Speaking of easy to obtain ammo, I was buying ammo at Hoover Dam and they were selling over 5000 5mm bullets.

This right here^.
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:05 pm

I tend to carry only one primary and one secondary weapon with sparse ammo(and always a combat knife)

And the assault carbine doesn't make the cut. I prefer single shot rifles with high DAM (mainly Brush gun) and a high DPS secondaries like Maria
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Post » Sat Jun 12, 2010 4:35 am

I tend to carry only one primary and one secondary weapon with sparse ammo(and always a combat knife)

And the assault carbine doesn't make the cut. I prefer bolt action rifles with high DAM (Brush gun) and a high DPS secondaries like Maria


Um, brush gun is a lever, not bolt action. Slip of the keyboard, I presume.
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Post » Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:37 am

Um, brush gun is a lever, not bolt action. Slip of the keyboard, I presume.


*fixed*
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:09 pm

And the assault carbine doesn't make the cut. I prefer single shot rifles with high DAM (mainly Brush gun) and a high DPS secondaries like Maria


If you're looking for a high DPS backup weapon, I'm not sure how you're picking any handgun over the Assault Carbine. For stylistic or role playing reasons you could perhaps choose Maria and if that's why you use what you do then fine, that's a personal choice. Based strictly on the DPS numbers, however, there's no contest between the two - the Assault Carbine wins out easily. After the patch which added automatic DT bypass on 5mm ammo it's even more lopsided in favor of the carbine.
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Post » Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:49 pm

If you're looking for a high DPS backup weapon, I'm not sure how you're picking any handgun over the Assault Carbine. For stylistic or role playing reasons you could perhaps choose Maria and if that's why you use what you do then fine, that's a personal choice. Based strictly on the DPS numbers, however, there's no contest between the two - the Assault Carbine wins out easily. After the patch which added automatic DT bypass on 5mm ammo it's even more lopsided in favor of the carbine.


Yeah it's strictly for role playing purposes. I'm playing a low-strength diplomatic character on hardcoe, so I can't have any excess weight, and have very few options for strength requirement weapons
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