You seem to have MISSED the part where they said they've been studying information gathered from the past 20 years. I think these top scientists have a much better idea what science is than any of us.

They didn't say that because they couldn't think of anything else, but because more evidence has been found that supports it, and combined with the evidence already found that supported it it is now beyond reasonable doubt that it must have been an asteroid impact.


Indeed.


As I already said, cockroaches would also survive as a species, plus a much greater percentage of cockroach population would survive than human population, too.

SETTING: conference room of the panel of top scientists

TOP SCIENTIST: "Ladies and gentlemen, we have made an amazing discovery. The dinosaurs were, in fact, killed by a massive asteroid--"

enter ZERONETGAIN

ZERONETGAIN: "WAIT!"

the crowd gasps

TOP SCIENTIST: "I demand to know what this is all about, young man."

ZERONETGAIN breathlessly makes his way to the podium

ZERONETGAIN: "You're doing it wrong. Trust me - I'm from the internet."

And I said that that is irrelevant. They would survive for different reasons since they are completely different from us. Most people talk about all of the evil and powerful things that would wipe out human civilization. I am saying we would most likely survive a large majority of those events, which shows our intelligence.

You can't compare humans to cockroaches when everything that is based on each species survival is completely different. You cannot judge both on the same criteria. A lot of other mammals would die, which is a fairer comparison. Whales would most likely still live because they are in the water. Cockroaches would most likely survive because of their physiology. Humans would survive because they are intelligent.

(And don't try to differentiate the two. Picking up a really heavy thing shows I am strong, and I can pick it up because I am strong. Some principle.)

:rofl: *mental picture of that kid with that same caption underneath*

I don't know no nothing about the concept of the English Language, , but just because we could survive this kind of catastrophe, doesn't mean we are smart per se. We're human. We are smarter than everything else on this planet, but even with that intelligence, we are hardly perfect, and always full of win. Let's also be honest, since the impact that killed off the dinosaurs also threw so much junk in the atmosphere that it ignited, at least, that's what I heard, and plus, hellish environment to me equals the sky is on fire , I think the only people to survive the atmosphere on fire would be people trapped in coal mines, on nuclear subs, or maybe in a very cold building, underground.

But again, what do I know about anything?

Like Zero, I am a random person on the internet, who knows more about the Cyberdemons from Doom then I do most anything else.

Maybe...maybe. But no other species on earth has developed written records and language to go along with their bones.

And you're proving exactly what I was trying to say: You wouldn't conclude that we're intelligent merely from the fact that we survived. You also conclude it based on the other data that you know - our size, our anatomy and physiology.

why would cockroaches survive? due to their mass numbers and size? i remember reading that even cockroaches would die in nuclear holocaust, since they aren't as resistant to radiation as theorized.

Er how long does paper last? 500 years if in a good environment, and about 6.7 days in an exposed environment?
Books grow mushrooms on them if they're placed in the right spot, (I have pictures of this, but it's The Book, if you know what I mean) so I don't think 65 million years is a good range for paper to last.

Same thing with everything we humans have created. Even plastic cups, and that Styrofoam won't be around then.
Our coolant rods for nuclear reactors will have long decayed into 86% of whatever Uranium decays into.

65 million years is beyond the range anything that should remain.
I think even Carbon-nanofiber would decay before then. Maybe even diamonds would be windswept into dust?
The Spinx, despite being old as the hills, , will be dust in the wind by then.
If you want to get technical, the Spinx is much older than the Egyptian empire. Water damage does not lie.

I would. In terms of size and strength, humans are pretty low on the chain. Our mind if what makes us human.

Well. At worst, I've read it could have been built in the 32th century BC. Which is not much older than the Egyptian empire (the Nile area was actually well developed, but not united). But then again, this theory is based on highly controversial ideas/materials/etc.

Anyway, I find highly improbable that anything from our time will last 65 millions years.
But we can never say for sure.

Wait, by 32 century, you mean 3, 200 years right? It's a lot older than that. I've never heard of Centuries being used the you just did to be honest. At least for the BC era.
The water damage (at the base) discovered can only exist from constant rainfall (this is the main one) and other sources (flooding, etc), and the last time it rained that heavily in the Nile area was around 9000 years ago. Putting it's creation at around 7000 BC.
Which predates the oldest Civilization, the Sumerians by about 3750 to 4000 years.

However, the Sphinx ( I fail at spelling) has nothing to do with meteors...so, let's wait for another topic to come up later.

Until they get a time machine, then it is just an official "theory".

We can't build a time machine ever, and there's plenty of evidence to support the fact that it's a meteor.

I suppose it could be me going back in time and exhaling badly...
But uh, if you want to get technical, according to what you said, everything is a theory. Please take no offense if that's not what you meant.
Including that we discovered fire, because there's no proof that's lasted throughout the last however many dozen thousand years it actually happened.

Unless you take cave paintings as proof.

So, why do you say that it's just a theory? Because really, without a time machine, we can't prove we existed before Ancient Sumeria.

We humans have been around for 2 million years, you're telling me that's a theory. Did we just suddenly appear? Are you saying we need a time machine to prove the Earth was created due to gravity compressing mountain sized chunks of rock together over and over again? Or to prove the creation of the sun? How about the big bang?

TBH, a time machine is a cop out. You can't use it, because it is impossible with what we know.

The dinosaurs died because they were too big to fit on Noah's boat..

:rolleyes:

http://www.noisebot.com/noah_just_couldnt_save_those_dinosaurs_t-shirt.htm

An asteroid impact occured, they found the crater (near yucatan peninsula) and the global iridium spikes. I saw a show on this, and the energy released was phenomenal; some of it blasted straight out into outer space, it was way more than previous calculations and models had accounted for. Small scale tests showed what would happen. I forget what the television program was called, I think it was on the Science Channel or something.

Or more time watching re-runs of Tila Tequila....

Oh for [censored]'s sake, again - you wouldn't use only and exclusively the fact that we survived as the premise on which to conclude that we're intelligent - you're also basing that conclusion on how big, strong and in other manners resistant we are.

If someone told you "there's a species on a planet far away which survived their planet getting hit by a giant asteroid" and that was all that he/she told you about that species, you wouldn't conclude that that species is intelligent, would you?

You are completely missing the point. I know my species. I know what we can do. I know what we would do in a situation such as this. We will just have to agree to disagree, since I won't delve into mudslinging.

please don't ban me for my next -blatent- political remark, I promise I won't do it again.


"It was my intentions to move back to the US and start a political party rallied around getting Tila Tequila removed from television and seperated from the word tequila because of the damage she is doing to a fine beverage, and all of Mexico by implication. This because it has to be the one uniting factor within US society today."




again, my apologies.

If you can find this video, post it here!

Oh on the contrary, we're not disagreeing - we're agreeing, because you've just again said that your conclusion that we're intelligent would not be based only on the fact that we survived. You said "I know my species. I know what we can do. I know what we would do in a situation such as this." That means that you would possess knowledge other than the fact that we survived such a disaster, and you base your conclusion about our intelligence on that knowledge too, not just on the fact that we've survived.

This is a hollow discussion, and we agree anyway. :-/

R.I.P. T-Rex and the others. I once knew some latin names for them, but that part of my memory was also hit by an asteroid.

Yeah, ha.
It's official until the next idiot makes another official statement, about something else that most of us had already accepted and believed.