The time that the Kamal invaded Skyrim, the Nords got slaughtered and had half of Skyrim's territory Windhelm conquered.

EDIT: correction.

Snow Elves.

Tamriel would be a better place with them instead of the Nords.

That was long after they started to drift apart from their ancestors and begin imperializing. Also after they no longer had Dragon Overlords or used the Thu'um as often. Makes me wonder what part the Dragons and Thu'um played in their War with the Falmer. Perhaps Saarthal had some resident dragons that tried to subjugate the Falmer. Perhaps the ensuing war made the Nords realize their Gods weren't invincible and the Dragons decided to crack down on dissent only it didn't work out like they hoped it would.

According to an MK text, the 500 consisted of dozens of Dragons, and Alduin himself made a brief appearance.

On-top of Ahzidal's fortify-resto enchantments.

I know which is kind of odd that it still took them until around 1E 139 to completely push them out of the modern boundaries of Skyrim. That and the Dragon War also happend some time before 1E 139 according to Skorm Snow-Strider journal.

If king Haralad is truthfully the 13th in the line of Ysgramor and they were still fighting groups of Snow Elves that's a lot of history that is just completely missing with almost zero records from that time.

The Dragon War happened in the very late Merethic Era so it seems like those guys at Forelhost managed to hold out for several hundred years.

http://srmap.uesp.net/?centeron=Forelhost

But then the place is right beside Riften and while I know the game is not to scale it just seems so unlikely that they could have been able to avoid them for so long.

Snow elves, Nords svck ......imo.

The Dragon cult and many of their ruins would have had to have been built when the Snow Elves still occupied much of skyrim if the Dragon war happened in the late Merethic. The last known hold out of pure Snow Elves wasn't even constructed until shortly after the start of the first era. Gelebor also says that he arrived long after it's construction. I doubt they would be building large elaborate temples well fighting a war for their very survival.

The large gap of almost no records between Ysgramors return and the reign of King Harald leads me to believe the Elder Scroll they used to send Alduin forward in time did more then they intended it to. You would think the Nords would love to tell stories of their battles against the Elves and Dragons yet there's almost nothing.

They have records of the building of Windhelm, the death of Yngol and Ysgramor and the Battle of the Moesring and the various songs of return but very little besides that. I suppose the main place they would have kept their records would have in or around the college and most of those were destroyed recently.

The modern Nords do seem to hate Magic and Knowledge unlike their ancestors. I doubt many have any love of books either. They would probably just use them to stoke the fire.

Skyforge.

Yea it doesn't really help.

http://i.imgur.com/jD7gUgg.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Z2YBlGj.jpg

^found those in Valthume

Hey! That's not my fault! A certain traitor locked me in my own coffin. Of course my beautiful city would fall apart in my absence.

Do you blame Valdar for the http://images7.alphacoders.com/386/386935.jpg

No... I thank them! Yes, thank Shor! For it is with his nature, that I can detect disloyalty amongst Alduin's chosen! -praise be-

But alas, I over-stepped my boundaries, and failed to see Valdar's trickery...

They must have burnt all the books after the Dragon war

"Hey anyone know where Ysgramors history books detailing some of our peoples most glorious battles went?"

Whoops...

Hard to say.

Looking at one side, the Nords went too far with retribution.

Even after the war ended, they continued to persecute the Falmer to the point they had to hide underground as described in Diary of Faire Agarwen.

On the other hand, the Snow Elves aren't exactly innocent, considering that it all started with the Night of Tears.

While the thought of a better world is nice, it really isn't based on any stable fact or knowledge, and therefor just a general anti-Nord assumption.

And I'm going to make a relatively educated guess and say you are a Christian/"Brony" based on evidence from your signature and avatar?

I just thought of something... why the hell is there a word wall near the chantry of Auri-el

Snow elves. Nords went way too over-board.

The Snow Elves, though I almost chose the last option.

Maybe a forgotten part of the Dragon cult was there and the Falmer (not the ugly freaks) slaughtered them, then moved in then built the chantry thingy.

The Atmorans for purely practical purposes. They kind of won. I wouldn't want to be on the losing side. I would sympathize with the Falmer though.

But if the war was even and the outcome of it was dependent on you, which side would you choose?

I have every bit of confidence, if that little brat whom threw the sword missed the Snow Prince... The Prince would have single-handedly slaughtered everyone. Including the two honchos Ysgramor and Ahzidal.

Talk about luck eh? What a throw.

I've had 7 characters named after her. my current PC character is one of them.

It's possible. Though no matter how macho the Elf, you can't beat the Atmoran technique of sword throwing, invented by Finna.

Fantastic idea, I think I'll do that.