so, if i'll give some to see FO1 & FO2 and ask him to guess which game is the squeal RAGE or FO3 based on the art direction what will he say ?

1) Come on, now - what answer do you really expect from a question like that?

2) Honestly, I'd say they'd pick Fallout 3.

Hey, you wanted Fallout 3 to like Rage. That's fine. I just feel differently. I happen to think FO3's art direction was spot on. I have some misgivings about some of the other decisions Bethesda made with the franchise, but the art direction is not one of them.

well i will not argu with you but most ppl will say RAGE (u know the desert and all .... )
as for FO3 art direction was post apocalyptic but not true to the originals nor to the retro 50's.

Okay, fair enough. Out of curiosity, though:

Aren't both games in the desert? And what's retro-50's about Rage?

I think FO3 is BETTER at showing us a PA landscape. I like the Art Deco look, and I think there are plenty aspects of retro 50's presented. It's not the same as FO1, but I think it's still effective. RAge is different, and it should be different.

no, not the same.
and i didnt said rage has anything to do to retro 50's i just said FO3 did a poor job of it (BIOSHOCK for example did an excellent job, great artistic design and atmosphere)

anyway enough on rage, its might look perfect for a FO world but its pointless since on there is nothing we can do, FO4 and FO3 will look and feel just like FO3 (especially since FO3 beth and rage ID are owned by the same company from what i hear)
better focus on what can be done in side the limits (thou i was here way before FO3 was released and i dont know how much all out suggesting here made any difference at all)

Probably because it's all people really know if they're new to the post-apocalyptic genre.

However, nearly everything remotely post-apocalyptic can be connected to Mad Max and/or A Boy and His Dog.

Oh, absolutely - those were genre defining. It's like why every cyberpunk movie looks a little bit like Bladerunner. Really, that's why I think it's inacurrate that anytime anything remotely PA comes out, I see a thread going "do you think they were influenced by Fallout?"

It's like, no... It looks like Fallout because they're both influenced by common sources.

(Hey, there's nothing wrong with that, either...)

yes but RAGE looks more like FO than FO3 ... the setting, the color palette the items, the signs etc...

Or "The Road", which does an even better job of describing the vast desolation, the mistrust, the drive for survival against overwhelming odds, the desperation of finding food and safety, and the overall fall of mankind. There is a lot of "The Road" in FO3, but that book isn't fun, and the man and the boy lead a life that no one would care to lead, (on it's face, anyway) and all of that would make for poor gameplay.

I'm rereading the book know, and after my last play of FO3, I was thinking that the big difference between the two is the type of heroism between the characters of the book and the PC in FO3. Going in guns blazing and killing everything in sight is the basest sort of heroism. Trudging along, mile after mile, trying to save your kid as you feel time running out on you is real heroism, IMO.

I had no problem with the graphics in F3, 1 or 2.

It's about gameplay to me.

And honestly, BETH could've done a lot better with F3. However, It's still a great game. I actually just started a new char after ~3 months break-time. (When people do those kind of things, it makes the devs happy I'm betting.) :>