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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:17 am

Well .. a guy, who's sharing his opinion on the shown gameplay-videos, talking like a sleeping turtle .. over 50 minutes long.

After watching the first 7 minutes there was nothing interesting or intelligent in this video. So I'll pass on the rest.
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Hannah Barnard
 
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:38 am

Definitely deserves some respect, but it seemed like he paid to much attention to the technical limits of the game. Nagidal is very admirable commentator, it's just that he's looking to much into the small things most people wouldn't notice, because they are so miniscule.
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Post » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:10 pm

No offense meant to that guy, but there is no way I'm listening to fifty minutes of complaints. Valid or not. I can get plenty of that reading this very forum. ;)


Hmmm... this.

He is very very very nit-picking.
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Post » Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:48 pm

Seen it before, and although not-picking, he brings up some interesting points. I've also seen his SI let's play, which was pretty good and tried to maintain in character by not using known exploits or power gaming.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:03 am

I haven't watched all of it, but it doesn't seem that bad.
The way I see it, it's like me and books. I will pick apart a book and anolyse and critique it, but that doesn't mean I think it's bad. Some people think that's nit-picky and I should stop svcking the soul out of it and just enjoy it - but I find the whole process enjoyable, and I still like the books afterwards; even if there are bits I have issues with. I reckon he's the same, but with games. Unless they're just saying "this suuuuucks", chances are someone who takes the time to consider something in such an in depth manner enjoys the subject matter. A good, thoughtful critique is a kind of labour of love, I suppose.
I'm not into games enough to enjoy or get the most out of this video, but seeing as I read essays and critiques of books, I can't judge him.
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Post » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:05 pm

I think he does a great job on the commentary. He isn't to critical of it at all, and only points out genuine flaws that Bethesda could fix, and praises the things they did well. I am somewhat surprised that he didn't comment on the lack of cloth physics and more about when the horse stops running and stands on the cliff. Also want him to talk about the new quake-con footage so that I can see his thoughts on the waterfalls.
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Post » Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:46 pm

I'd watch the video but based on the comments I won't be. I don't like it when people overanolyze my favorite video games and ruin them for me so I don't have as much fun. I won't be constantly seeing the errors he's picked out and looking for others.

+1, he forgets it is a video game... Not real life... Games can only reach a lvl so high on todays consoles~ So certain sacrifices must be made~
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:15 am

Well .. a guy, who's sharing his opinion on the shown gameplay-videos, talking like a sleeping turtle .. over 50 minutes long.

After watching the first 7 minutes there was nothing interesting or intelligent in this video. So I'll pass on the rest.

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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:34 am

No offense meant to that guy, but there is no way I'm listening to fifty minutes of complaints. Valid or not. I can get plenty of that reading this very forum. ;)

^ He could say all the things he wants to in like 20minutes really slow.
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Post » Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:40 pm

I've just watched the whole video, and it's not just a list of criticisms. He points out a lot of great things too.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:46 am

Well .. a guy, who's sharing his opinion on the shown gameplay-videos, talking like a sleeping turtle .. over 50 minutes long.

After watching the first 7 minutes there was nothing interesting or intelligent in this video. So I'll pass on the rest.


Watching 7 minutes of a 51 minute video voids any opinion you might have towards the guy. That would be like watching 7 minutes of a documentary and having an opinion on it, it would be really hard to take you seriously.

I think a lot of what makes him great is his attention to detail. It reminded me about the story of Steve Jobs when he called the senior VP of Google to tell him that the second O in google had the wrong gradient and that he can get his team to fix it for him if that was okay. This is what makes Apple one of the best. Their attention to detail.

I mean isn't that why we like the Elder Scrolls series? For that same attention to detail? If you listen to the commentary by Todd in most of his walk through videos he talks about the detail over and over that they have put into the game. THIS is why the Elder Scrolls series is far superior to most games on the market today, that attention to detail.
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Post » Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:57 pm

I have seen this video quite a few times, though have always thought he was a little to picky. I like his complaining due to the fact he justifies his complaining well, also there is something about his voice. Not sure what but his voice is awesome and is the main reason I watch it multiple times. :thumbsup:
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Post » Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:23 pm

This man had attention to detail that I wou,d have never seen, although he has started to make me slightly disappointed for the game to come.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:09 am

Funny thing about him (and others) complaining about the blacksmith looking at the player while sharpening the axe.. Its not really that unrealistic, I sharpen knifes everyday, the older guys who do it aswell are so trained that they can look at talk to me while they do it.
The complain on that part is pretty stupid and Im kinda getting tired of it, but oh well.
He also points out several other things which are either redundant or unrealistic for this game at this day and age. But what can you do I guess, he is clearly a pretty big nerd when it comes to this (also lold at him commentating on how the wolfs teeth looks and going: Ive never seen wolf teeth but these look more like dog teeth")

Edit: made it to where hes at the word wall, lmao at him being dissappointed that beth didnt invent a new language with complex grammar and something more complex than a normal alphabet? Wtf is this for a [censored]? Seriously, sure, he has sense for detail, but he is WAY too demanding and has absolutely no sense of what is realistic to accomplish.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:11 am

Lol! I was thinking the same thing. It didn't alter my opinion though. He does a great job of speaking to the things that are done really well and the things where there's opportunity. I didn't feel like it was all one sided.


LOL, me too. I saw 51 and change and I thought for 1 sec, "why do they have hundrenths of a second" and then realized holy crap it's 51 minutes. He is very detailed and did have a lot of positive things to say about Skyrim.
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Post » Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:42 pm

He DOES have valid points. But only a few. Most of the time I found myself annoyed by this commentary rather than intrigued. He could have condensed this video to twenty minutes and I would have gotten the same information; the same non-constructive criticisms. I can appreciate his attention to detail, and his want to convey this to the world. But he just spends an inordinate amount of time harping on the same detail; over and over again. He makes a point, and you say to yourself "I see what he means." But about five minutes into saying the same thing you want him to just move on. Informative, yet bland; I think that describes it. I probably would have liked it much more if he kept it fluid and engaging.

Overall it was a decent video and I would recommend it (as some of it is positive things he likes.)
Though I would click through it a bit more on the time bar. :foodndrink:
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Post » Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:43 pm

He DOES have valid points. But only a few. Most of the time I found myself annoyed by this commentary rather than intrigued. He could have condensed this video to twenty minutes and I would have gotten the same information; the same non-constructive criticisms. I can appreciate his attention to detail, and his want to convey this to the world. But he just spends an inordinate amount of time harping on the same detail; over and over again. He makes a point, and you say to yourself "I see what he means." But about five minutes into saying the same thing you want him to just move on. Informative, yet bland; I think that describes it. I probably would have liked it much more if he kept it fluid and engaging.


I see what you mean - maybe a bit more rehearsal on his part or some editing would have helped it flow better. I don't think his criticisms were that non-constructive though.
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Post » Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:37 pm

Guy is smart and most of his criticisms are true in nature but completely irrelevant due to development time and cost restraints. Anyone with graphic modeling experience could probably do the same video, but I don't think it contributes anything...

Criticism without context is unusable.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:53 am

Watching 7 minutes of a 51 minute video voids any opinion you might have towards the guy. That would be like watching 7 minutes of a documentary and having an opinion on it, it would be really hard to take you seriously.
Is this guy some kind of "youtube celebrity" or why do we have so many [censored] for him here?
Anyways, there's no need to get personal. It's not like I had a strong opinion on that guy and his anolyses. I just pointed out, that the first 7 minutes were rather boring and not enough to motivate me to (most likely) waste nearly an hour on it.
Also usually you totally can judge the quality of a documentation within the first 7 minutes.
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Post » Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:17 pm

...Its a representation. None of this guys 'complaints' are valid for that very reason. An obvious graphics hound.
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Post » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:02 pm

I've grown to really appreciate Nagidal. Yes, hes very pedantic (especially that part about the arrow feathers). I like his point on the wolf attack. A 150lb wolf at full charge should really make an impact. Brace yourself.


i like him too - good points and also good ideas! bthesda should hire him as a quality tester!
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Post » Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:09 pm

Excellent video, guy is amazing! Thx for sharing! :thumbsup:
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Post » Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:54 pm

I just continued to watch up to the 20 minutes mark and it only got worse.
If you think this would be "intelligent", "smart" or that he'd have potential as a game developer, I feel sorry for you.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:38 am

Most of his points are correct, but I for one have never expected Skyrim to be anywhere close to what he wants. If any game was like he wants, it would be the the best game of the past generation, although I'd argue that Skyrim will come close.
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Post » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:15 pm

His opinions are absurd, frankly. Who cares if the wolf didnt make a realistic impact? I dont understand people...they want the HARRRRCORRREZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!! mechanics, but also the realistic, adventure/action game stuff. Reality check: both things cancel each other out. If wolves make an impact on you just because they are heavy, no matter what your stats are, then stats wouldnt matter. Its a clearly defined thing: do you want stats, or do you want a semi virtual reality adventure? You cant have both...maybe you can, but nobody has come up with it yet. Live with it.
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