Attn: Dxtory way better than Fraps

Post » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:37 pm

Yeah see, these are title tricks. Aren't they effective.
But honestly, I'm pretty serious here.

It's mostly superior due to the fact that it shouldn't lag your game up (unless you set it to force the FPS to the video rate). WHICH I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE BECAUSE CRYSIS 2 AT 30 FPS IS CHOPPY AS HELL.

Oh shi- that slipped.

Anyways, the big thing here is that it supports setting a custom codec to encode with, which means that you can encode your stressy recordings using the best (or at least strongest) size/speed lossless codec, namely Lagarith.

Thing here is, 4:52 of 640x480 (aren't I old-school) video took up 1.72 GB, and Crysis 2 is horrendously bad to codecs.
Especially due to the fake "micro noise/dithering" they add.

But thing is, it's just better. And I thought I ought to spread the word.
Not to mention that the FRAPS codec is pretty bad, as it's rather slow. And my recoding with Lagarith usually results in what, 30-60% decreases in size?



So yeah, GET IT. NOW.
Enjoy, fellas. [/alrightbyes]
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des lynam
 
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Post » Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:33 am

FRAPS is not a codec, it's a recording program. FRAPS does not encode, it saves RAW video stream at about 222 megabits per second.

Also, encoding in a "nameless" codec is likely to produce bad results. x264 ALL the way. Especially the Hi10p(also known as 10bit) profile.

Also, fraps works for me without a sinch, but I do play at "All High", so I don't experience as much lag as most people do, considering I don't own another drive, and I record on the same drive I play the game on.
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Post » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:36 pm

I believe FRAPS to be better if you have the hardware to support it because of the raw output file. It's quite beautiful.

I used a LOT of different screen capture softwares (captcha, Action!, dxtory, playclaw, etc.) and I gotta saw that dxtory is a close second to FRAPS. I like that you can use a lagarith loseless codec pick what kind of channel you want to render in, and then use multicore rendering to not lose FPS (playclaw implemented that but it's awful). Really cool. However, whenever I use dxtory, my supposedly 60FPS recording doesn't look anywhere near as smooth as my FRAPS 60 FPS recording.

So, enthusiast recorders who gots da hardware: use FRAPS, otherwise Dxtory is the way to go!
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Post » Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:38 am

What part of the PC is it you need to upgrade so your PC can handle Fraps?
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Post » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:42 am

That is actually a great friggn question.

Theories I got. Can someone help with actual chops?
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Post » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:33 am

CPU?

I like dxtory because it doesn't cut your files into 4GB segments. So more tidy.
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Post » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:35 pm

What part of the PC is it you need to upgrade so your PC can handle Fraps?


I saw a tutorial of how to record with FRAPS without getting severe lags. It was basically to record to an external storage or a different drive, I think. If that's not it, I dunno.

As for Dxtory, I shall give it a try.

EDIT : My computer is too crappy, FRAPS and dxtory work all the same, i.e, bad :P
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Post » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:56 am

What part of the PC is it you need to upgrade so your PC can handle Fraps?

Record from drives that have a high sequential read rate. Record to drives that have high sequential write rate.

For instance:

I have Fraps and C2 installed on a SSD (adata S511) which runs a sandforce nand and has 500+mb/second which is massive.

I record to 2 1TB drives in RAID 0 configuration which is , I think, 180mb/s.

I also overclock my CPU and my GPU. (intel core i5 @4.05Ghz and I cant remember my GPU settings).

I can record in full at 1680x1050 (wish it was 1920x1080) at 120FPS no problem on High settings with anti aliasing and down sampling. I can probably drop it to 60 FPS and up some settings or get a better monitor.

Not everyone has nice stuff though, and if you don't use Dxtory cause it's great.
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Post » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:48 pm

Yeah I downloaded that lagarith lossless codec you mentioned for dxtory, it's fantastic. I may see about getting an SSD.

I have two 750GB Raid 0 HDDs. And my CPU is pretty great, might just be my graphics card letting me down.

I saw a tutorial of how to record with FRAPS without getting severe lags. It was basically to record to an external storage or a different drive, I think. If that's not it, I dunno.


Nah, I have 500GB External Drive, it's much slower to record to it. An internal one without Crysis 2 on it would be faster however (I think).
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Post » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:41 am

To get best possible rec use software that will take adv of multi cores. Keep proc open low and oc high. Keep vid card oc high and stable. Don't run outta vram and max out on regular ram if you can. Media, ideally large sata III ssd's in raid 0 (this is essential) like 2 Mushkin Chronos 256's in raid 0 will give you excess 1gb reads n seq. writes which is blistering fast. Obvious downsides is capacity vs cost. Wanna be pro gotta pay the man.....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226225

You can alternatively setup 3 or 4 smaller fast sata iii ssd's in raid 0. Then watch your reads and writes go sky high. Like 4 mushkin chronos 120's in raid 0. Boom, sub 8-10 second to desktop from bios post.....which isn't too much faster in boot up time than 1 ssd but 4 in raid will shine like gold in everything else. Like when I wanna always be 1st in the map to do my thing.....

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Post » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:07 am

I have 4 terra and record to one of the drives ... no lag for me and I have a quad processer and 1 gig vid card that is 4 years old. MaxExtreme board O/C'd. no issues in game with Fraps. I bought Fraps if that matters.
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Post » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:09 am

You need a fast drive ( 1 ssd and a hdd would be great). Install your game and the rec program on the ssd and save your recs on the hdd. Get a good RAM, a good capacity and fast clocked. Well, you need a good cpu and gpu for good fps anyway.
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Post » Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:30 am

I have 4 terra and record to one of the drives ... no lag for me and I have a quad processer and 1 gig vid card that is 4 years old. MaxExtreme board O/C'd. no issues in game with Fraps. I bought Fraps if that matters.

I bought it too. I only get rec lag/stutter when I rec in nvidia surround as res' 5k+ x 1080. My issues are inappropriate vram for nvidia surround (570x3 w/the smaller amt vram 1.2 or 1.5, can't remember) Anytime performance questions come around I almost always suggest the single most perf. improvement these days is ssd's, preferably in raid 0 if possible. It's a huge noticeable increase in nearly everything. Any cpu over 4 these days is sorta overkill but wtf SB's can do 4.8+ all day so why not. Plus there is a certain amount of truth in cpu speeds and vidcard bottlenecking Only thing Im not sure on is dimm clock speed versus perf. I don't see a lot of diff b/t 1600/1866/2133 speeds. I think for gaming 1600 with lo timings is all you need. Can't comment on >2133 as thats my board limit.
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Post » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:10 pm

I have 4 terra and record to one of the drives ... no lag for me and I have a quad processer and 1 gig vid card that is 4 years old. MaxExtreme board O/C'd. no issues in game with Fraps. I bought Fraps if that matters.

I bought it too. I only get rec lag/stutter when I rec in nvidia surround as res' 5k+ x 1080. My issues are inappropriate vram for nvidia surround (570x3 w/the smaller amt vram 1.2 or 1.5, can't remember) Anytime performance questions come around I almost always suggest the single most perf. improvement these days is ssd's, preferably in raid 0 if possible. It's a huge noticeable increase in nearly everything. Any cpu over 4 these days is sorta overkill but wtf SB's can do 4.8+ all day so why not. Plus there is a certain amount of truth in cpu speeds and vidcard bottlenecking Only thing Im not sure on is dimm clock speed versus perf. I don't see a lot of diff b/t 1600/1866/2133 speeds. I think for gaming 1600 with lo timings is all you need. Can't comment on >2133 as thats my board limit.

Forgot to mention 4gig of OCZ Plat's @ 1600.

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Post » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:34 am

How can I get H.264 for dxtory?
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