Should Attributes be back or not ?

Explain the reason of your post please....

Attributes are not back. This is what you wanted to know right?

They are not in and they shouldn't be in. It creates a further uniqueness between MW, OB and SR.

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Did this really need yet another thread? There's currently two other attribute topics on the front page, plus many more if you search.

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Can't you see this is a poll?

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No disrespect the the opening poster, but debating whether attributes 'should' be put back in is somewhat pointless

We've been told that they are not in. And I guess Todd Howard isn't going to change that based on the results of a poll on this forum....

Here's the poll version: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1180946-perks-vs-attributes/

Attributes were constraining, at least for mages. If you wanted to raise your magicka, you had to use Conjuration, Alchemy, or Mysticism. If you don't like any of those skills you're forced to sink all your points into Willpower, which is a half-combat attribute. Now we have the freedom to use the magic skills we want and still raise our magicka.

That poll is convoluted.

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OMG can't you see that is a totally different question and poll?

My reason why I don't like attributes to come back:
I don't want just another RPG, and Bethesda is about to try something revolutionary for RPGs.
I say they should try it.

If it was for people like "I want it to be like in previous games, nothing should change" then we wouldn't even had first person games yet.
But I can see why most developers produce the same game just with other graphics nowadays (CoD, MoH, ...).
It seems to me many people just don't want changes.

And this poll is pointless. It's like making a poll: "should oblivion-style level scaling be back in instead of fallout 3 style scaling?"

It's already confirmed that attributes are gone. This poll isn't going to change that.

It's effectively the same. The context is one where Bethesda will presumably be using perks to do a lot of the work to do what attributes did in previous games. So the question is: is this a good decision? Should attributes be replaced by perks? Should Bethesda have kept the old system and not introduced perks? Or should they have introduced perks as an addition to attributes?

Totally different? Well, there are different words used, and there are different options. But the distribution of answers will convey essentially the same information (if not more, given the more fine-grained options) as yours.

So go :facepalm: yourself.

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Lol omg no is totally different its simple quyestion yes or not ? not a list of what you would like to be perks like and whatever ... stop trolling please ....



Again trolling , this is not abut either if Beth should or not do it is about what you think about attributes is shoul dor not be back in to make a statistic , please stop trolling ...

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So what IS the purpose of the poll then?

It's already been decided attributes aren't in and the next game is still a long way away and this poll -like many threads on this forum- will be long forgotten and deleted in a server cleanup.

So the purpose is?

This thread is not about if Beth should include attributes, it's about if attributes should be included?

I'm not trolling, I'm just tired of seeing so many attribute topics, and this really doesn't add anything that all those attribute topics didn't.

I think you get a far richer custumisation byt going with a skill/perk system then a skill/attribute system. By taking the variables attributes did and adding them to perks you can create (I think) far more interesting characters. I do not beleive perks are limited just to mimicing attribute variables just ot be clear. i don't think you gain anything by having an attribute when you can duplicate the result with perks.

I am convinced that the this whole issue against their removeal is direcly a result of change phobia. Itas a radical change from how pervious TES titles did things so it is running into resistence. All this talk of it being dumbed down or limiting is just rhetoric.

There are other topics discussing attributes and as this one has turned into a debate as to whether there should be yet another topic on them, I will say no. Use one of the open topics please.