Hmmm... I tried a few LAME and Midas scripted spells and wasn't able to reproduce it. Maybe there's some conflict with another mod. Do you mind posting your load order?

sure, heres my LO

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  ScreenEffects.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.4]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm05  CM Partners.esm06  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.69]07  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]08  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b1]09  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0A  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]0B  Windfall.esm0C  Better Cities Resources.esm0D  Progress.esm  [Version 2.0]0E  P1DlookHereYou.esp0F  Sprinting.esp10  Unconscious300.esp11  Roughing It.esp12  IshNightEyeToggle.esp13  TTHealthRegen.esp**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp**  TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp14  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]15  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]16  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp17  DLCShiveringIsles.esp18  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]19  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.05]1A  Better Cities .esp1B  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp1C  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp1D  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp1E  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1F  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]20  Fran Armor Add-on.esp21  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp22  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp23  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil.esp24  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.4]25  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.4]++  All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp  [Version 0.9.4]26  All Natural - Enhanced Seasons.esp  [Version 0.9.2]27  All Natural - Skingrad.esp28  All Natural - IC Palace Changes.esp29  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp++  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp  [Version 0.1]++  Symphony of Violence.esp2A  AmbientTownSounds.esp2B  MIS.esp2C  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp2D  WindowLightingSystem.esp2E  SM Soul Delete.esp  [Version 1.00]2F  AliveWaters.esp30  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp31  7lbsBedrolls-OBSE.esp32  ChaseCameraMod.esp33  CNRP Brumav02.esp  [Version 0.2]34  CNRP Chorrol.esp  [Version 1.1]35  CNRP Cheydinhal.esp  [Version 1.0]36  CNRP FightersGuild.esp  [Version 1.0]37  Days&Months.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.71]38  Immersive Combat Music.esp  [Version 1.00]39  Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp3A  Crowded Roads Revisited.esp  [Version 1.1]3B  Landmarks, w Wells.esp  [Version 1.11]3C  Oblivion Gate Map Marker Remover.esp  [Version 1.1.0]3D  DLCHorseArmor.esp3E  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3F  SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp  [Version 1.11]40  DLCOrrery.esp41  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]42  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.11]43  DLCVileLair.esp44  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]45  SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp  [Version 1.11]46  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp47  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]48  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.11]49  Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp4A  kdThiefVest.esp4B  Armor of Gaia.esp4C  ASlof'sBraceletsandClaws.esp4D  Assassin_Blade.esp4E  BarbarianShop.esp4F  KDDwemerSpectacles.esp50  Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp51  Thieves Arsenal.esp52  XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp53  Slof's Horses Base.esp54  Slof's Extra Horses.esp55  DLCThievesDen.esp56  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]57  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]58  SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp  [Version 1.2]59  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.69]5A  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]5B  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5C  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp5D  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5E  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp5F  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]60  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp  [Version 1.33]61  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]62  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]63  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9]64  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b1]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]65  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b1]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b1]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b1]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b1]66  Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp  [Version 3.7b1]67  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b1]68  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b1]69  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b1]6A  Mart's Monster Mod - Durzog Addon.esp  [Version 0.10]6B  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse RuneSkull OOO Loot.esp6C  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]6D  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]6E  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]6F  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]70  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 0.18]71  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]72  Nightshade_Armor.esp73  cyrodiil transportation network wz.esp74  The Lost Chapel.esp75  Abecean_lighthouse_1.1.esp76  Halcyon House.esp77  hackdirtabyss.esp78  HeartOftheDead.esp79  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]7A  MountainShack.esp7B  RomancingAhnassi.esp7C  StopDarkBrotherhood.esp7D  FiveBlindMiceBeta.esp7E  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 2.5.2]7F  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]80  Windfall.esp81  DLCFrostcrag.esp82  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]83  SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp  [Version 1.2]84  The Lost Spires.esp85  TOTF.esp86  TOTF Delayer.esp87  RTT.esp88  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.2]89  xulStendarrValley.esp8A  xulTheHeath.esp8B  XulEntiusGorge.esp8C  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3]8D  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp8E  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.1]8F  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp90  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3]91  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]92  xulAncientYews.esp93  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]94  xulCloudtopMountains.esp95  xulArriusCreek.esp96  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]97  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]98  xulPantherRiver.esp99  xulRiverEthe.esp9A  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]9B  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.1]9C  xulBlackwoodForest.esp9D  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp9E  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp9F  ElsweyrAnequina.espA0  bartholm.espA1  Bartholm-Panther River Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]A2  HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.espA3  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.espA4  VeronaHouseBloodlines-LostCoast fix.espA5  VeronaHouseBloodlines-ChorrolHinterland fix.espA6  Better Cities SKINGRAD.espA7  Better Cities - Skingrad City Defences.espA8  Better Cities BRAVIL.espA9  BCBravil-Barrowfields patch.espAA  Better Cities - Bravil City Defences.espAB  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.espAC  Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.espAD  Better Cities CHORROL.espAE  BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.espAF  Better Cities - Chorrol City Defences.espB0  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.espB1  Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.espB2  Better Cities - Cheydinhal City Defences.espB3  Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]B4  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]B5  kuerteeCustomisableHUDComponents.espB6  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.espB7  Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 CT.espB8  ImmersiveHealthIndication.espB9  Enhanced Vegetation [125%].espBA  talkwithyourhands2.espBB  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.espBC  Duke Patricks - Running Backwards RISK.espBD  RealisticForceHigh.espBE  Simple Essentials beta2.espBF  Luchaire's Dryad Race for MMM.esp  [Version 1.0]C0  Beautiful People.espC1  CT-Argonian Headstyles.espC2  Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.espC3  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]C4  MidasSpells.espC5  Disenchant.espC6  RefScope.esp  [Version 1.3.0]C7  DS Flaming Arrows.esp  [Version 1.1]C8  ConduitMagic.espC9  AgarMoreVariedSpellEffects.espCA  AudaciousMagery.espCB  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.69EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]CC  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]CD  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]CE  Enchantment Enhanced.espCF  EnchantmentRestore.espD0  StealthOverhaul.espD1  sycHearNoEvil.esp  [Version 1.0]D2  sycSHOUT.esp  [Version 1.02]D3  RenGuardOverhaul.espD4  RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.espD5  marksman_challenge.espD6  Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrow Shots Alert The Target.espD7  Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.espD8  Duke Patricks - Basic Combat Geometry.espD9  Druid.espDA  nGCD.espDB  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp++  nGCD Skeleton Key.espDC  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]DD  ProgressSBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]DE  Legendary Abilities-Shield MOJ.espDF  Grandmaster of Alchemy.espE0  actors_in_charge.espE1  Pose Thumbnail Poses 1.1.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.71]**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]E2  bgMagicLightningbolt.espE3  QTdof.espE4  ScreenControls.esp++  Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.esp++  bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp  [Version 10]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]E5  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]E6  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]E7  Willful Resistance.esp  [Version 4.0]E8  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.95]E9  bgIntegrationEV - Unique Clothes.esp  [Version 0.95]EA  Better Cities IC Arboretum.espEB  Better Cities IC Arcane University.espEC  Better Cities IC Arena.espED  Better Cities IC Elven Gardens.espEE  Better Cities IC Green Emperor Way.espEF  Better Cities IC Market.espF0  Better Cities IC Prison.espF1  Better Cities IC Talos Plaza.espF2  Better Cities IC Temple.espF3  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 0]F4  Bashed Patch, 0.espF5  Duke Patricks - Momentum Damage And Jump Risk.esp++  Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp

by the way ive tried recreating it and just casting some spells doesnt seem to cause it. also something to look into could be the ini settings since it may be enabling/disabling something that causes the problem

Mine:It's a BOSS load order, with a few small unrecognized mods placed towards the top because they overwrote things I didn't like by being at the bottom:

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  underdark.esm02  GTAesgaard_2.esm03  Cybiades.esm  [Version 2.0]04  Windfall.esm05  Jog_X_Mod.esm06  Children Of Rourken.esm07  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm08  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]09  DremoraCompanion.esm0A  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm0B  No Lights Flicker.esm0C  CM Partners.esm0D  Toaster Says Share v3.esm0E  HorseCombatMaster.esm0F  UnnecessaryViolence.esm10  Underwear HGEC Fighter.esm11  Underwear HGEC Normal.esm12  HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp13  TRoN.esp14  sixlivion_0.4a_Full_English_v1.esp15  Personal Torture Girl.esp  [Version 2.0]16  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]17  DLCShiveringIsles.esp18  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]19  no_wind-2578.esp1A  JQ-EasterEggHunt09.esp1B  MoveQuestItems - OBSE.esp1C  NBB.esp1D  Vows and Covenants.esp1E  C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp1F  Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection.esp20  HouseMapMarkersOnlyBought.esp21  sr_super_hotkeys.esp22  MaleBodyReplacerV3.esp23  Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp24  New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp25  SentientWeapon.esp  [Version 3]26  Thieves Arsenal.esp27  StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp28  TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp  [Version 1.39c]29  TamrielTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]2A  TamrielTravellersItemsUnscaled.esp  [Version 1.39c]2B  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]2C  TIE.esp2D  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]2E  300_Artifacts.esp2F  300_White Stallion 4.esp30  The Contented Prisoner V 2.esp31  COR-Episode1 Secret of Enourk.esp32  DBSRebuiltComplete.esp33  Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0.esp34  eyja.esp35  GTAesgaard.esp36  GTAesgaard_2.esp37  HeartOftheDead.esp38  JQ-AssassinQuest-NoMarkers.esp39  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp3A  EiAmod.esp  [Version 1.1]3B  EiAmod_ShiveringIsles.esp3C  Lock Spells.esp3D  Malevolent.esp3E  PirateIsland.esp3F  Servant of the Dawn.esp40  DBContinuedBeta 0.7.esp41  The Ayleid Steps.esp42  The Siren's Deception.esp43  TheElderCouncil.esp44  TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp45  EmperorMod.esp46  thievery.esp47  Unique Dungeons - Lichs Lair.esp48  Unique Dungeons - Lost Glory.esp49  Windfall.esp4A  Knights.esp4B  NLF Knights.esp4C  Cybiades.esp  [Version 2.1]4D  CybiadesDungeon.esp  [Version 2.1]4E  The Lost Spires.esp4F  TOTF.esp50  Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp  [Version 1.4]51  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 6]52  Moriarcis.esp53  Duke Patricks The Lady said NO.esp54  Archmage Chest Ingredients Addon 2.0.esp55  Cliff_BetterLetters.esp  [Version 1.1]56  CUO_FightersGuildContracts_SAFE.esp57  CUO_NewFactionDialog_SAFE.esp58  Staff of Portals.esp59  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]5A  Speedy Disrobe OBSE.esp  [Version 1.3]5B  undercover.esp5C  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]5D  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 2.1.0]5E  RealisticForceMedium.esp5F  Remote Life Detect.esp60  RefScope.esp  [Version 1.3.0]61  MidasSpells.esp62  NekhanimalLifeDetect.esp63  Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp64  Enchantment Enhanced.esp65  sycHearNoEvil.esp  [Version 1.0]66  kuerteeCrimeHasWitnesses.esp67  TRN One of the Gang.esp68  SM Hand Combat.esp  [Version 1.0]69  Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp6A  JOTN script effect replacer.esp6B  Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp6C  DremoraCompanion.esp6D  sixycompanion.esp6E  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]6F  PlukeRoleplayingPersuasion.esp70  bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp  [Version 9.0EV-U]71  bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]72  bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp  [Version 10]73  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]74  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]----> Delinquent MASTER: bgMagicEV.esp75  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]----> Delinquent MASTER: bgMagicEV.esp76  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]----> Delinquent MASTER: bgMagicEV.esp77  bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]78  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]79  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.63EV]7A  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]7B  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]7C  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]7D  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]7E  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]7F  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]80  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.945]81  bgIntegrationEV - Unique Clothes.esp  [Version 0.94]82  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]83  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp84  UnnecessaryViolence.esp85  kuerteeCleanUp.esp86  ConduitMagic.esp87  ViconiaChapterTwo.esp88  Underwear HGEC placed.esp89  AudaciousMagery.esp8A  Dschinni.esp

Also the character is a pure mage: 100 destruction, 100 alteration, 96 Illusion, 60 something mysticism, 70 something conjuration, and 60 something restoration. 105 Intelligence, 100 willpower

Potential issue: you both use Conduit Magic, which I haven't tested against. I took a quick look at CM and it deals with autocalc values which would result in the error you're reporting. Try loading up without Conduit Magic and see if the error persists. If it does, I can see if a fix is possible.

edit:
Not really on topic, but the way Conduit Magic uses clone forms will cause savegame bloat.

well this is a dissapointment if conduit magic is the cause. Ill test as soon as a can, but since i fixed the issue earlier and saved over that game ill have to wait till a run into it again.

the bloat is also dissapointing, if conduit magic is the problem i guess i will have to leave it untill a workaround is found

Nope, not Conduit magic.

Started up the game without it:
Astral recall: 30
Icarian leap: 200

Selected Icarian leap(casted it), jumped around a a bit, and then took off Sheogorath's regalia, and ring of perfection. I checked the spells again:
Icarian leap: 222
Astral recall: 1

Then I put the stuff back on, checked my stats again and then exited the journal. I then pressed 3 which is the hotkey for beast of burden(Didn't cast it, 500 feather spell, the spell directly above Icarian leap), and pressed F3, Icarian leap had gone down to costing 2 magicka.

Ok, I took a closer look through Conduit Magic and it isn't the source of the problem. It only looks at the autocalc flag and doesn't set it. However, I recommend removing the mod anyway because it does cause permanent savegame bloating.

phoenix, could you try one more test for me?

Make a clean save - uninstall Audacious Magery, load your game, and then save. Then reinstall AM and see if the issue remains.

i tried this and haven't run into the issue since, i just stopped playing a few minutes ago to see if you had come up with an answer. It may just take time to come back after you clean save tho.

The hope is that upgrading without making a clean save is the problem. I don't know much about how it works, but I've heard that making changes to an .esp without a clean save can cause variables to end up having the wrong values and various other problems. There are a number of variables in AM whose state needs to remain correct between sessions, and one of them going wrong after updating definitely could cause the problem you two have described. If that is the issue, the only fix required is to add update directions to the readme (and hope people read it :shrug: ).

...I don't think I ever updated.... Nope I didn't, my download folder only has one Audacious magery archive.

1.0.1 seemed like something small that I wasn't too worried about, and 1.0.2 came out after I had already noticed the bug. Anyway I downloaded 1.0.2, applied it, deactivated the mod, made a clean save. Now I activated the esp and am going to see if it did any good.

ill try updating without a cleen save and see if i can recreate the problem on my end, i actually just updated a while ago using a clean save but i still have the save with the previous version of the mod.

In the new update ive found a problem, if you have the vanilla lvl mastery enabled in the ini you can create spells of any magnitude, but you cant use them for some reason, turning that setting off let me use the spell, but when you turn it back on you cant use them anymore

Sadly, it didn't work. For awhile it seemed to, I was switching around casting a whole bunch of spells. Icarian leap a few times, Astral recall twice. Then I started casting Icarian leap over and over again and jumping around. After I ran out of my 3000 or so magicka I checked my spell list and saw that astral recall was 1 magicka again.

It turns out that GetSpellMasteryLevel doesn't work correctly for player created spells. Problem fixed and new version is up.

Still working on phoenix's issue. If anybody else has the problem, please let me know... the more information I can get the better.

ty for the update, i havnt been able to reproduce my problems yet so im hoping its gone, but ill make sure to inform you if it comes back

Could it be usage? I use those two spells a lot, it's the only explanation I can think of for those two spells alone being effected. I also use Finger of the mountain a lot but there's no script effect to that.

when i had the problem i noticed that a spell i didnt use anymore had its value changed as well, but i do think the problem happens while using spells.

That's not all, GetSpellMasteryLevel doesn't work correctly for spells that are flagged with autocalc.

[edit]Oh wait, you've already checked for that. [/edit]

This mod really looks interesting. One thing I miss is a chance that you loose Magicka and Health. I like the idea that if you cast a spell beyond your ability there's a chance you hurt yourself both physically and mentally, without touching attributes. Any chance that could be added and of course included in the ini so it can be turned off for those that don't like it? The amount lost could be set according to the amount of Magicka used.

EDIT: Seems you already have backfire in which I assume causes damage to health. Is the damage caused the about the same as the spell cast? And it would be nice if there was a chance for health damage for just about all spells beyond your ability.

This mod sounds great! A nice alternative to Sorcery's Toll, which I stopped using because my poor 17 Willpower woodelf kept harming herself using lesser and greater powers with costs, or when removing a plus-magicka ring.

With AM, do you suffer backlash any time your magicka drops (a la ST) or only when you actually cast a spell (as opposed to using a Power)?

There is a chance to lose/drain magicka or health for all spells beyond your ability, even if you don't use the backfire option. And all the effects scale for the amount of magicka used. If you don't want attribute damage, change these lines in the ini:

set aaEMMainQuest.dgatMagnitudeMult to 0.0
set aaEMMainQuest.dgatDurationMult to 0.0

Since that will remove a large number of penalties you may get, I suggest increasing the chance to make up for it:

set aaEMMainQuest.penaltyChanceMultiplier to 1.5




You will only suffer backlash when casting a spell that is beyond your ability and not a power. No need to worry about removing items.




More information is indeed helpful

After reading the part about using two spells a lot I decided to subject part of my script to some extra rigorous testing and discovered a bug. It involves quickly switching back and forth between spells during a spell cast. If you could switch spells fast enough, my backup+restore method was bugged and would fail to restore the status of the switched spells after the 2nd. The bug is fixed and a new version has been uploaded.

I'm still not sure if this bug is the cause of your troubles, but try updating (do a clean save just to be safe) and see if the problem is gone.

Could you elaborate a bit on the spell failure chance? I plan to use this alongside Fizzle and would like to know a bit about how they will behave together. I guess I could just test it myself, but in the process of installing Oblivion again which may take some time. Not alot of free time on my hands at the moment.

Odd, it was always recommended to me that I switch to a power whenever I do something that will result in a loss of significant magicka.... because when you had a power selected Sorcery's toll wouldn't hurt you. Maybe you were using an earlier version than me.

I'm getting a strange issue with summons (in conjunction with L.A.M.E. ans SM), and that is that they last for 1 sec (not very useful). Testing linked this problem directly to this mod - is this an issue you are aware of? For now I'll DL the latest version and pray/fiddle with ini. Another suggestion - would it be possible to add a label (visible) to all spells to see the mastery level of each one? (because with limits removed the game (well, the hud) assumes all spells are castable and does away with telling you what mastery level the spell is).

Well done on a great mod otherwise btw.

Spell failure chance is a chance, based on the strength of the spell vs. your skill, to have the casting fail. Willpower reduces the chance of a spell failing.

If you're going to use Fizzle alongside this, you should probably just disable spell failure, since Fizzle has more features. No real point in using both at the same time.



The issue with summons must be a conflict with a 4th mod - I've tested AM with LAME and SM. If you post your load order I might be able to help figure out the issue. It's definitely a conflict though, since AM doesn't even touch summon durations.

As for the second issue... check your spellbook
Limits are only removed for the spell you have currently selected. Mastery levels will still be properly displayed for everything else.