Finger cramps?! Boo-hoo, the keyboard has been a gaming input device far longer than a controller, based on your logic, the NES gamepad was also a 'natural' gaming input device, despite being horrible to hold.

You also get finger cramps from playing Guitar, that must not be a natural music instrument then?

I would like to use a driving wheel to play Crysis 2 on PC, so please developers put in some kind of aimBOT in multiplayer. I can't bear losing so I need it to compete even if it's unfair to every person playing with another control method. Thanks, and remember, it's not that I'm not skilled, it's simply that I can't beat controller and K&M users without it. Don't listen the haters, they only care for a balanced and fair multiplayer game.

PD: I promise I won't exploit the system and enable the aimbot when using M&K... ^.^

Just like the post above, the discussion its not what is better keyboard and mouse or a gamepad,
If you want you can use whatever you like, you can use a sthering wheel, but you cant have advantages, multiplayer its about fun and competition, and its not fair that some people have auto-aim and some dont, if you like to use a gamepad, play more and get better, if you do this I'm sure that you will kill many

Hi there,

Due to an overwhelming response regarding auto-aim from the PC demo, the decision was made to remove support for auto-aim (not gamepads completely) because of the unfair advantage it may give players and the chances of it being exploited. This change was part of our day 1 patch as listed here: http://www.gamesas.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=10951

Thanks!

Thanks for the auto reply. What you guys did made the gamepad useless. Great I just wasted 60 bucks because I thought that I could play with sweet graphics and better servers without giving up my controller. Why could you guys do something like make it any option for servers? and also to get rid of the auto aim mouse cheaters put an option in the menu that "enables" the gamepad and when that option is on the mouse connot be used during gameplay.

This is BS you support players that have an issue by taking it out and now your game in imbalanced heavily in their favor and you respond with some BS reply. Make the game balanced for both sides instead of making one of your only 2 supported methods of play USELESS.

Wow I thought you guys weren't just another crappy game company man I was wrong. Failed launches and a Imbalanced game did you guys get bought out by activision?

but thats the oint....if we give you auto aim you wouldn't show us how to shoot.....th computer would

GUYS WHAT THE ****! I CANT PUT A MOUSE AND KEYBOARD INTO MY XBOX TO OWN bichES AT HALO!

WHAT IS THIS!

GIVE ME M+KB SUPPORT ON THE 360 SO I CAN SHOW THESE KIDS HOW TO PLAY!!!!



seriously, thats basically what your asking of the PC community. Obviously with M+KB I would be destroying nubs on the 360, thats why its not there. The fact is that regardless of how much you want to play 360-style (or PS3, its just easier to type 360) on the PC, it WILL NOT happen. Auto-aim for the PC was there in the demo. It caused so much rage and anger on the PC side of things because it made it look like C2 was even more consolized (notice there is no console version of that word: pc-ilized). Crytek acted very well in the situation and listened to the MAJORITY of the market and removed auto aim.

The fact that there are a few people who want to play on the PC with a controller and still want auto aim is regardless. You're in our 'house' you play by our rules. If you want to play with auto aim go back to the 360.

Hi there,

Due to an overwhelming response regarding auto-aim from the PC demo, the decision was made to remove support for auto-aim (not gamepads completely) because of the unfair advantage it may give players and the chances of it being exploited. This change was part of our day 1 patch as listed here: http://www.gamesas.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=10951

Thanks!

Thanks for the auto reply. What you guys did made the gamepad useless. Great I just wasted 60 bucks because I thought that I could play with sweet graphics and better servers without giving up my controller. Why could you guys do something like make it any option for servers? and also to get rid of the auto aim mouse cheaters put an option in the menu that "enables" the gamepad and when that option is on the mouse connot be used during gameplay.

This is BS you support players that have an issue by taking it out and now your game in imbalanced heavily in their favor and you respond with some BS reply. Make the game balanced for both sides instead of making one of your only 2 supported methods of play USELESS.

Wow I thought you guys weren't just another crappy game company man I was wrong. Failed launches and a Imbalanced game did you guys get bought out by activision?
Haha you can still use your controller just no auto aim.
Is that a problem? No i dont think so.

We are PC players complaining about other PC elitists refusing to allow proper controller integration / handicap in a PC game.


no....no your not a pc gamer if you are asking for a handicap to play online, as for integration....you have it. The controller works for a pc. Why on earth ould you even think to ask for auto aim on a multiplayer PC title....that boggles the mind. I am no elitist...as I have a 360 as well, but I would never ask for auto aim on a PC title so I can use a controller.....it's a PC title and the standard for input on PC titles is M&K. If you choose to use a controller that's fine, but don't expect for the PC community to make allowances for your choice of input when it was designed for the console.

apparently mentally challenged mouthbreathers have discovered crysis 2 :/
this thread is just downright hilarious, begging for auto aim to fix his own retardation haha.

I am a bit confused. The reason why they removed the Aim Assist is because it could be exploited. Can't it just be applied to a controller and not KB/Mouse. I just feel that you may as well not offer controller support in a game if you are not going to make it somewhat even. I am not looking for the crosshair to follow a target across the whole screen. Can't they apply some distance filter for far away targets? I don't know. I just don't see the Mouse/KB setup being the input device of choice for gaming in the future.


Crytek, you let me down with favoring mouse/kb. I guess I would remove it as well if I had this many people "whining" that Aim assist is unfair to the mouse/kb users (who appear to be a far superior being). I just hope all the new consoles use mouse/kb instead of controllers, they are so outdated (sarcasm)

wtf does aim assist have to do with proper integration of controllers
aim assist is for fairies l2p

I am a bit confused. The reason why they removed the Aim Assist is because it could be exploited. Can't it just be applied to a controller and not KB/Mouse. I just feel that you may as well not offer controller support in a game if you are not going to make it somewhat even. I am not looking for the crosshair to follow a target across the whole screen. Can't they apply some distance filter for far away targets? I don't know. I just don't see the Mouse/KB setup being the input device of choice for gaming in the future.


Crytek, you let me down with favoring mouse/kb. I guess I would remove it as well if I had this many people "whining" that Aim assist is unfair to the mouse/kb users (who appear to be a far superior being). I just hope all the new consoles use mouse/kb instead of controllers, they are so outdated (sarcasm)
How is that favoring M+KB?
No one gets auto aim VS only controller users get auto aim
Which one do you reckon is fair??????

Hi there,

Due to an overwhelming response regarding auto-aim from the PC demo, the decision was made to remove support for auto-aim (not gamepads completely) because of the unfair advantage it may give players and the chances of it being exploited. This change was part of our day 1 patch as listed here: http://www.gamesas.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=10951

Thanks!

Thanks for the auto reply. What you guys did made the gamepad useless. Great I just wasted 60 bucks because I thought that I could play with sweet graphics and better servers without giving up my controller. Why could you guys do something like make it any option for servers? and also to get rid of the auto aim mouse cheaters put an option in the menu that "enables" the gamepad and when that option is on the mouse connot be used during gameplay.

This is BS you support players that have an issue by taking it out and now your game in imbalanced heavily in their favor and you respond with some BS reply. Make the game balanced for both sides instead of making one of your only 2 supported methods of play USELESS.

Wow I thought you guys weren't just another crappy game company man I was wrong. Failed launches and a Imbalanced game did you guys get bought out by activision?

It's only useless if the user is too inept to use the proper means of input on the PC. A PC is not a console.

Hi there,

Due to an overwhelming response regarding auto-aim from the PC demo, the decision was made to remove support for auto-aim (not gamepads completely) because of the unfair advantage it may give players and the chances of it being exploited. This change was part of our day 1 patch as listed here: http://www.gamesas.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=10951

Thanks!

Thanks for the auto reply. What you guys did made the gamepad useless. Great I just wasted 60 bucks because I thought that I could play with sweet graphics and better servers without giving up my controller. Why could you guys do something like make it any option for servers? and also to get rid of the auto aim mouse cheaters put an option in the menu that "enables" the gamepad and when that option is on the mouse connot be used during gameplay.

This is BS you support players that have an issue by taking it out and now your game in imbalanced heavily in their favor and you respond with some BS reply. Make the game balanced for both sides instead of making one of your only 2 supported methods of play USELESS.

Wow I thought you guys weren't just another crappy game company man I was wrong. Failed launches and a Imbalanced game did you guys get bought out by activision?

It's only useless if the user is too inept to use the proper means of input on the PC. A PC is not a console.

We'll I have been playing with the controller since 2001 and I have no desire to switch.

Why can't they just make it a server option. Then you guys can choose weather or not you want to play with us and vise versa. Then everyone is happy. Taking it out only makes you guys happy, there has to be a solution to make both parties happy.

Aim assist server option + disable mouse for gameplay when game pad is plugged in = neither side complaining.

We are PC players complaining about other PC elitists refusing to allow proper controller integration / handicap in a PC game.


no....no your not a pc gamer if you are asking for a handicap to play online, as for integration....you have it. The controller works for a pc. Why on earth ould you even think to ask for auto aim on a multiplayer PC title....that boggles the mind. I am no elitist...as I have a 360 as well, but I would never ask for auto aim on a PC title so I can use a controller.....it's a PC title and the standard for input on PC titles is M&K. If you choose to use a controller that's fine, but don't expect for the PC community to make allowances for your choice of input when it was designed for the console.

I'm not asking for it personally, I'm asking that the developers take more time on the issue at hand. This issue is something developers often chalk up just being unbalanced. There hasn't been too much research into how much of an "advantage" if any, it would give controller users on the PC.

Controller support is greatly increasing in PC titles within the recent years, especially with the 360's controller. All I'm asking is for a greater discussion on the issue.

As for those saying "why can't I use keyboard + mouse on consoles" it's simple: it's not up to the individual game developers, it's up to the platform holder (1 company, 1 decision). The PC allows, natively, for controllers to be used with games.

Once again: I'm happy without auto-aim, I had it DISABLED on the demo as soon as I was aware of it. I'm just asking for a discussion of the issue amongst the developers and not just leave it to a community to decide (most of the time it's the opponents of a certain argument that are heard the most).

LOL 2001? listen to these guys... So your the tools who were playing Ghost Recon, and RTCW on the single D-pad MS Sidewinder joypad?

Seriously, do some research before you throw dates around. Your fancy Dual Stick pads did not exist other then on the PS1 with no PC support. And FPS games from 2001 were not the pvssy hold your hand auto-aim BS from now days. If you played shooters with your sidewinder you prop just rage quit and qq'd all the time.

Seriously what were you 9 in 2001?

We'll I have been playing with the controller since 2001 and I have no desire to switch.

Why can't they just make it a server option. Then you guys can choose weather or not you want to play with us and vise versa. Then everyone is happy. Taking it out only makes you guys happy, there has to be a solution to make both parties happy.

Aim assist server option + disable mouse for gameplay when game pad is plugged in = neither side complaining.


There's already this option. If we want to play without controller people we play on PC. If you want to play without us and with auto aim there's the console version. Then everyone is happy.

You join a console server and aim assist is on, the mouse is disabled = neither side complaining.

I can honestly say that game pads don't turn me on. On the other hand since my razer mouse died after many years of faithful service i can see why you'd use a pad as opposed to the heap of junk acer optical i have atm i have cinder-blocks more responsive than this thing

This whole PC Elitist "mouse and keyboard are skill, go back to your console because you're stupid if you want a gamepad" argument is just silly. That's probably one of the reasons the PC gaming scene is dying, because even though we know we're a small and dying breed, we still reject others. I spent two years of console FPSing and the last 3 months PC FPSing (and I have no intention of switching back), and I can honestly say that PC gamers are the worst of the bunch and the biggest whiners.

Why can't they just make it a server option. Then you guys can choose weather or not you want to play with us and vise versa. Then everyone is happy. Taking it out only makes you guys happy, there has to be a solution to make both parties happy.

Aim assist server option + disable mouse for gameplay when game pad is plugged in = neither side complaining.

then go back to xbox and ps3... PLAY IT with your controller with aimbot!! GOGO
why even bother PC game? why? whats wrong with you?


"I dont see mouse and keyboard being controllers in furute.. blabla"

what the heck? you have played with gamepad since 2001.. OH GAWD I feel sorry for you you have never seen the bright side of gaming.

its like asking to nerf all formula 1 tracks and put speed limit in place because some **** team cannot make their car better enough.

Controller support is greatly increasing in PC titles within the recent years, especially with the 360's controller. All I'm asking is for a greater discussion on the issue.

clueless is clueless...

yes it has because every friggin FPS game that has come out since those consoles came to market are shotty console ports with **** down toned graphics and gameplay.

you console players give good money to developers, they do what you ask..

but you see, nowadays consoles are SO bad and old that guys like you rather buy pc games because of better performance etc.

so.. also learn to play as its meant to be! not as it was toned down ever since because handicapped controller users could also play...

u getting me?


and stop already this whine bs over auto aim... you are not getting it.

LOL 2001? listen to these guys... So your the tools who were playing Ghost Recon, and RTCW on the single D-pad MS Sidewinder joypad?

Seriously, do some research before you throw dates around. Your fancy Dual Stick pads did not exist other then on the PS1 with no PC support. And FPS games from 2001 were not the pvssy hold your hand auto-aim BS from now days. If you played shooters with your sidewinder you prop just rage quit and qq'd all the time.

Seriously what were you 9 in 2001?

No i used an S-type xbox controller in 2001 when Halo came out. Been playing FPS's since but the console online system just svcks so much and I have a nice computer to play this game on. The controller was fine in the demo so I bought the game. Now It svcks and I feel like I wasted 60 bucks. You should be happy that console guys are switching over since most of you complain that they are hurting PC games. More PC players will help you but all you do is insult them. I switched from console to PC, because I thought it would be a much more mature environment. But WOW was I wrong you guys are bigger babies than the 10 years on xbox. Instead of saying "yeah aim assist server options would be a good compromise" you start crying about how this is PC and you NEED to play with keyboard and mouse or GTFO. That is not the mature way of going about things. When you grow up you will realize the world is full of compromises. If they offer both options they should make the both BALANCED. If that means making and option for guys like me to join a server and play with aim assist on and guys like you can another where guy like me can't use auto aim then so be it. Whats it to you? filter "No aim assist" join a room and be done with it. How hard is that?

well now is the time to learn to play properly and throw away controller.

its bad, believe me...

you will get 100000000000 times more satifaction out of keyb + mouse once you master it.

just.. stop and try not to be so ignorant, really


oh and btw.. you console gamers are hurting yourselves in the long run, not that you are hurting "us pc gamers"

you now have to suffer and get to play **** console ports on pc aswell.. since no way you would accept xbox or sp3 graphics in 2011, right?

so whos hurting who?

consoles are just plain money milking machines

As I would have to learn to play with controller on console.

now you have to learn to play with key + mouse on pc.


simple?

and no... controllers are not superior over k+m, its the other way around..

You know... your are right. There should be dedicated aim-assist servers, that allow aim-assist for both M&K and PAD. That would be fair!

Plus all the aimbot, speedhack, recoil hackers can go play on those servers and leave the rest of us to game without these exploits.

I can see how some people find it fun to not have to squint to kill at 300 feet, and I for one would feel better knowing the aim assisters are not on my server.

Let them have unlocked servers, let the cheaters go there too, lol.

If they want to pay to host a server, they should be allowed to play the way they want.

This whole PC Elitist "mouse and keyboard are skill, go back to your console because you're stupid if you want a gamepad" argument is just silly. That's probably one of the reasons the PC gaming scene is dying, because even though we know we're a small and dying breed, we still reject others. I spent two years of console FPSing and the last 3 months PC FPSing (and I have no intention of switching back), and I can honestly say that PC gamers are the worst of the bunch and the biggest whiners.

Anyone who plays on a server with aim-assist is a CHEATER. Get some skill, kid.

How if its in the game and the people joining are aware of it can it be cheating? and why do you care? you don't have to join that server. Since so many hardcoe PC guys hate Aim assist then they would turn the option off in there own server. Only the people who want to play with it on have to join Aim assist enabled servers you don't. I for one would buy my own server and never bug you all so superior KB+M players. We would never cross paths unless you wanted to join a server that has the option enabled.

This post and many others in this thread proves point that you are all immature no it all's that have to have your way like a child or you will whine and cry about it. I realize some of you would prefer not to play against aim assist. So why can their be a solution to cater to both without you guys having hissy fits? Grow up and have an open mind. we DO NOT want to play with keyboard and DO NOT want to play on xbox. But we want the same experience of enjoyment as you guys get from you keyboard and mouses. Are you mature enough to realize that or is there going to be more idiots posting to go play on xbox. You know what if xbox had dedicated servers, I could look past the inferior graphics but this game like EVERY OTHER FPS on consoles lags due to non-dedicated servers. Can you uber smart PC guys GRASP that concept? I have been lost to find a well balanced FPS for controller no matter what platform it is on. The demo made me so excited that I could have a great gaming experience and still be able to go back to my console roots. So why don't you babies grow up and help the community instead of insulting them every time someone goes against the norm. Gamepads are more and more relevant on PC games lately and this game even feels like it was made for the controller but now it is has lose the only mechanic that puts it on even grow with a precision mouse. It is IMBALANCED plan and simple.