@ Sebastony30:

Congrats on missing Vengeance1's entire point. Just like you have the right to complain about all the missing features, gamepad users have the right to complain about the lack of aim assist, if not more so. Think about it. Aim assist was in the demo from day one. People play demos to see if they like the game enough to purchase it. They succeeded in the demo with aim assist. Now that it's gone it completely changes the whole game for them and they just wasted their $60. You're just complaining about extras. Extras that you'll end up getting in due time.

Oke so what about the fact they upgrade the pre-order editions automaticly to limited editions if offcourse pre-ordering it early (with promising features like dx11 or a simple thing like the editor or modtools, then when was the demo released? 3weeks before release of full game! so how much chance do you have that you then still have the limited edition? What about those guy's ? i'm one of them......

Besides learn to play without auto-aim , you get better skills anyway.

Why wank about a feature that gives you a handicap to play less skillfull?

@ Sebastony30:

Congrats on missing Vengeance1's entire point. Just like you have the right to complain about all the missing features, gamepad users have the right to complain about the lack of aim assist, if not more so. Think about it. Aim assist was in the demo from day one. People play demos to see if they like the game enough to purchase it. They succeeded in the demo with aim assist. Now that it's gone it completely changes the whole game for them and they just wasted their $60. You're just complaining about extras. Extras that you'll end up getting in due time.

Oke so what about the fact they upgrade the pre-order editions automaticly to limited editions if offcourse pre-ordering it early (with promising features like dx11 or a simple thing like the editor or modtools, then when was the demo released? 3weeks before release of full game! so how much chance do you have that you then still have the limited edition? What about those guy's ? i'm one of them......

Besides learn to play without auto-aim , you get better skills anyway.

Why wank about a feature that gives you a handicap to play less skillfull?

For the 20th time I do not have a problem with the lack of auto aim, I use a controller and am managing just fine. Refer to page 47 if you need proof. I'm just stating that I can understand why people would be upset about the exclusion of it in the full version when it was there in the demo. Some people bought the game BECAUSE aim assist allowed them to succeed. It's a matter of business. If your customer expects one thing in return for their money, and you don't deliver what's expected, you're going to receive complaints. Crytek led people to believe that there would be aim assist by having it in the demo. Your, or anyone else's personal opinions on gamepads and aim assist simply DO NOT MATTER. I can't stress that enough. And if you still can't understand why those people might be a little upset now that it's gone then I might as well be banging my head against the wall.

When are you going to realize that everybody and their mother has things to be complaining about with this game so far? That's my whole point. You have the right to bich, and so do the people who bought this expecting aim assist.

I guess the main problem I have with your post is that you're justifying your complaint while just dismissing people's lack of aim assist complaint when both are valid.

@ the "go play your console" guys:
Get the hell out of here. I bought $1500 worth of components and built my pc from scratch and I am entitled to play games in native 1080p with 8x AA locked at 60 frames with whatever input device I see fit. Just because I grew up with a controller in my hands doesn't mean I don't have the right to enjoy a superior gaming experience on a pc.

You don't deserve a computer-assisted "guard rail" in a competitive environment.

Hmm I must be playing with a lot of bad pc gamers then. I have have matches like this fairly often.

you were playing crashsite, where the objective is to take and hold the drop pod, not get as many kills as possible. seeing as you only have 150 points to your 33 kills, I would say in that situation they were better than you.


That being said, how come you had nothing to say about the instant action?

I ignored the last one because 1) I couldn't tell what it was at 4 in the morning and didn't want to make an assumption and 2) free for all death match is luck from time to time, if i had a nickel for every time I was shot from 4 different directions just because it so happens they all decided to shoot me first, I could buy crytek and put DX11 into the game. 16 people all looking to gun each other without teams makes constantly winning slightly variable. I've dominated death match plenty of times myself, but occasionally I get really unlucky with spawns or the above mentioned.

Regarding Crash site: These days with the dominance of games like CoD and Halo it's hard to believe that someone playing a MP game is going to do anything BUT have the mindset of just raking in kills to enlarge their epeen, so I congratulate you on being proactive and objective focused.

@ the "go play your console" guys:
Get the hell out of here. I bought $1500 worth of components and built my pc from scratch and I am entitled to play games in native 1080p with 8x AA locked at 60 frames with whatever input device I see fit. Just because I grew up with a controller in my hands doesn't mean I don't have the right to enjoy a superior gaming experience on a pc.

You don't deserve a computer-assisted "guard rail" in a competitive environment.

I don't want or need one. I was not talking about aim assist. I was talking to the pc elitists that tell me that if I want to use a controller I should be playing a console.

FPSes aren't meant to be played with a controller.

What a retard! Auto Aim are for chickens. Chicken = Console Gamers. Mouse n Keyboard are used for real skills.
In Demo Auto Aim totally pissed me off, it was almost like a stupid aimbot. And I don't believe a guy whining to have it back.

What a retard! Auto Aim are for chickens. Chicken = Console Gamers. Mouse n Keyboard are used for real skills.
In Demo Auto Aim totally pissed me off, it was almost like a stupid aimbot. And I don't believe a guy whining to have it back.
this.
it feels like cheating.

Holy sh*t people, stop bumping this thread. You're all recycling the same things that have already been stated several times before.

Whatever you want to say on this subject...ITS BEEN SAID. No need to keep bumping this thread and giving the dev's a chance to "rethink" the decision.

the main mistake that crytek made in demo is allow autoaim for K+M users. if it was just for controllers, nobody wouldn't even noticed

One last time, let it be known that I am not the OP and I am not complaining about not having aim assist. I was sticking up for the people that had bought the game after playing the demo and expecting aim assist.

However I do use a controller. And this whole idea that someone using a controller can't even compete with a "true" pc gamer using keyboard and mouse is such a load of crap, especially in a game like this. I mean there's a "turn me invisible" button/key. All you have to do is use your head a little. In a game like counter strike, yeah that idea might have some more truth to it.

Here are some screens from a few games I played just tonight. Keep in mind I'm not trying to show that I'm highly skilled or anything to that effect. I know better than that. I'm honestly just trying to show that it really doesn't matter what you use to play, if you know what you're doing you can do well in this game.

And in case any pc elitists want to jump my crap, try to keep in mind that I'm somewhat helping your cause, as it demonstrates that auto-aim for a controller is not a necessary feature and doesn't need to be in the game.

Well I know it's coming anyways so let the bashing commence I guess.

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I honest to god have never felt like I couldn't compete because of my controller. It wasn't even a particularly great night for me. I understand some matches weren't balanced the greatest but that's not my fault. I still beat my keyboard and mouse teammates. But yeah, I'm done, take from it what you will. Enjoy the game.

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Several reasons PC gamers wanted "Auto Aim" gone..

** unfair advantage
** easier for hackers to exploit

But.. just think of it like this, if you just moved from console to PC, how do you expect to get any better if the "computer is aiming for you"? That does not help you in anyway.. it just makes you look like a better player than you are, and when the time comes and you must do it for yourself, you won't be able to.

To tell you the truth, I don't understand why "Crytek" had auto aim integrated into this game in the first place. Seriously, if you feel like you are'nt that good, then play the "campaign" a few times and get used to the game, or find a server for beginners.. but don't ask the computer to aim for you. While you're at it, would you like to get a mouse that moves without your hand touching it? That way you can just sit back and eat popcorn while the computer plays the game for you. Kinda like watching a movie!

Console > PC

You guys exaggerate the whole aim assist thing. Get over yourselves.

I remember when launch games worked at launch. Cry-tek = Epic Fail

Console > PC

That's probably why the game is inferior in everyway to Crysis.

Face the facts guys, with no new consoles in the forseeable future, controllers are a MUST for PC gaming. If you want to stick with the KB/mouse (oldschool), maybe you should keep to Diablo/Sim games.



A tennis player wants to play pingpong and he asks the pingpong player, "Why don't you use a bigger racket like mine and a bigger ball?"

Cuz he got no balls.

Very happy to see auto-aim removed.

Congrats, you want to use a third party peripheral. "Good for you". Using a 360 controller doesn't mean you should be given an advantage because you've decided to handicap yourself.

Console > PC

Right... Except a PC does everything a console does and more and does it better.

Boost Joystick sensitivity to 100%.
Oh wait! that's just 25% on a mouse (with mental controlled sensitivity anyway)

Personally, I'd be happy if Crysis 2 had Console vs PC matchups. we could then team up appropriately and end this pathetic rivalry once and for all with a big > between PC and Console.

Congrats, you want to use a third party peripheral.
If it was a Logitech Controller, would you call that a 3rd party peripheral?
If it was a Razer Controller, would that be 3rd party?
What about if it was called XBOX 360 Controller for Windows?
Is a Microsoft headset 3rd party?
Is a Media Center infrared remote control for a HTPC 3rd party?
Is an Antec Gaming PC case 3rd party?
Would you call an Nvidia graphics card 3rd party?
Is a G1 Killer gaming motherboard 3rd party?
Is a Logitech gaming keyboard a 3rd party peripheral?
What about a Logitech flight stick for Microsoft Flight Simulator?
What about a Logitech wheel for a PC racing sim?
What about a Microsoft keyboard?
What about a Microsoft operating system?

...

The PC platform is not like a console where all hardware belongs to one company. The PC is a highly versatile and 'open' platform. If all, or any, of the above are 3rd party, then what on Earth is a 1st party PC part or peripheral?

omg this thread is unbelievable! console gamers crying because they have no aimbot for their joysticks.

you people are the reason we there is so much hate against console gamers...

its not an "aimbot" as you like to call it, but aim assist is mostly needed to eliminate the disadvantage of having a controller, since the joystick is way less precise compared to a mouse and a keyboard...

omg this thread is unbelievable! console gamers crying because they have no aimbot for their joysticks.

you people are the reason we there is so much hate against console gamers...

its not an "aimbot" as you like to call it, but aim assist is mostly needed to eliminate the disadvantage of having a controller, since the joystick is way less precise compared to a mouse and a keyboard...

don't bother, they are idiots. I just bought it for the 360 and am having alot of fun online. PC "Elitists" can go scratch. You guys will never have the community console gamers have. Admit it, you are in 3rd place. Losers!!!

the main mistake that crytek made in demo is allow autoaim for K+M users. if it was just for controllers, nobody wouldn't even noticed

I've actually noticed it's use in the demo. With the availability of kill cams, it's not hard to see it bump and follow like any other console title and trigger the "WTF" center in a PC player's brain.

its not an "aimbot" as you like to call it, but aim assist is mostly needed to eliminate the disadvantage of having a controller, since the joystick is way less precise compared to a mouse and a keyboard...

If you want to use a controller, you have to take the downsides with whatever good you happen to see.

omg this thread is unbelievable! console gamers crying because they have no aimbot for their joysticks.

you people are the reason we there is so much hate against console gamers...

its not an "aimbot" as you like to call it, but aim assist is mostly needed to eliminate the disadvantage of having a controller, since the joystick is way less precise compared to a mouse and a keyboard...

don't bother, they are idiots. I just bought it for the 360 and am having alot of fun online. PC "Elitists" can go scratch. You guys will never have the community console gamers have. Admit it, you are in 3rd place. Losers!!!

oh wait.. console gamers has community? wut?

I thought they are so casual that they cant be arsed even to say GL or HF before match................. who would know