you wanted it after it was announced, if they would announce that there was no health regen, youd defend that. If they announced that you cant die and that you just get a scar like this was Fable, youd defend that. Doesnt matter if it took 5 minutes, or 5 days, its a total waste and wasn't needed.

Didn't say they wouldn't, just clarifying that as of now it seems like health regens constantly but it will be so slow as to not be useful during combat. How would you be able to tell the movement of 1-5 points per second on a meter 999 units long?

now hes said this im not worried about it. if its anything like the kotor rate of regen its nothing to worry about. that regen definitely didnt render force heal and medpacks useless, especially in the heat of combat.

Person I originally quoted did. I was clarifying for him.

well since its not in they didnt waste their time on something so stupid! that whould be a bad move on their part i dont want to regenerate health automaticly

Why should health, an abstraction of a number of factors that determine survivability in combat be as static? Warriors used to require health potions or spells, and now spells are impractical for dedicated warriors.

Why should health be more static than fatigue? From a "Realism" standpoint Walking around and going about my business doesn't halt the rate at which I recover my breath after having it knocked out of me after, say, falling off a horse, or the rate at which my random cuts, scraqes, and bruises heal over, or the rate at which the pain after I stub a toe, sprain an ankle, or piss on an electric fence takes to subside. However, it takes active rest for me to eliminate fatigue built up after a long day of work.

From a gameplay standpoint, constant recovery of all three combat resources outside of battle keeps the game's action and pacing flowing.

I doubt they'd go this way to be honest, since it was Todd playing the demo, he was obviously in Todd-mode. In which, he can probably never die/lose health/have unlimited health etc. IN essence, a god-mode to just display the game, or.. Todd-mode > God-mode. LOL xD If there really is auto-regenerative health.. I hope there is a setting you can turn off to remove it, that would solve everyone who has the problem like me with the regenerative health somewhat ruining the game, but allow those who want to take the easy way out to take it.

My thought is that people should stop crying on these forums about how "their game was senselessly [censored] by the developers by dumbing it down for all the slack-jawed knuckle-draggers that make up the new target audience" (none of you have ever said it that way to my knowledge, but I feel safe assuming that you've thought it). It's in the game, so you have three options:

1. You all create a thread that is a petition for Bethesda to exclude passive health regeneration from the hardcoe mode (assuming there is one and they haven't already disabled it). DON'T DEMAND ITS REMOVAL, some people (myself included) don't play these games to strain our gameplay abilities because we like to play games to relax, not scream at a monitor/TV because the game was designed with only dice-rollers in mind. That way, it works for the people that want it, and not for the people that don't.
2. On your PC, mod the health regen to 0, so it doesn't provide any benefit to you, even though it's there.
3. Accept it's presence.

Now, while I go grab a soda, I'll be eager to come back to see how many of you have completely ignored my post to go on crying about the tragedy of the game being somewhat easier for the player, or only reading the first sentence and assuming I told you in a drawn out way to [lol] off.

autohealth regen doesnt sound like my cup of tea, i hope if it is implemented that it is OPTIONAL.

The number of downloads on http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16014 http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8514 http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1807 http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2671-http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=24496 http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=29095 http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2804 says otherwise.

Health Regeneration On or Off - solves everything, if that being the case, otherwise, what he said.

Yeah...the highest number of endorsemants any of those mods have is 24. Compare that to mods that make the game harder, like http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15256, http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2518, Warcry, etc, then get back to us.

Honestly... health regeneration increases the challenge of the game... Knowing that health regenerates over time encourages the player to press on and continue exploring at sub-optimal health in the hopes of having sufficient HP by the time they face their next threat. A player with low-but-regenerating health is more likely to stumble across an encounter with non-maximized health, and thus be killed, than someone who is careful to rest/heal between every encounter because low health doesn't take care of itself.

Also, I find regenerating health to be more enjoyable/"immersive" from an actual gameplay standpoint: When an encounter's finished and my health is not critically low, I can keep myself focused on the world around my character instead of worrying about details on the HUD, content with the knowledge that any deficencies there will take care of themselves as I admire the scenery, or continue exploring on my epic quests.

I don't think that is what he was trying to prove...

Ell owe ell.
Could not disagree more.

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So what? There was a bunch of nudity mods, doesnt mean we asked for it to be in the vanilla game. Almost nobody wanted this in Sky, until it was announced and confirmed in.

Ooh boy... you should have been around these forums earlier :hubbahubba: There have been dozens of threads that were thinly-veiled requests for nudity in Vanilla Skyrim... some getting more traction than others.

Actually... I believe several important people did ask for it: Those who've been playtesting the game from the start and seeing what worked and what didn't.

Somebody in this thread said that they wanted health regen before it was announced. They even downloaded a mod for it in Oblivion and liked it better.

Not really, they put it in to appeal to more people. Like most of their decisions and PR has shown.

I used a regen mod for oblivion that let me regen out of combat slowly so this doesn't bother me at all.

After playtesting and ensuring it worked and played better than no health-regen. Same thing with the removal of Attributes (Which nobody requested, but the playtesters apparently found to be an overwhelmingly good thing).

No, you dont know that. You must have not been here for level scaling? Im sure it was tested and ensured to work :rolleyes: .

Well, I know Level-scaling was pretty overwhelmingly demanded for Oblivion, because Morrowind had a problem with becoming Godlike too early. Only in hindsight did people realize that mistake.

And... level scaling worked pretty well in Fallout 3.

My point is that just because they develop and even test something, doesnt make it automatically better, or good for the series. Never saw many, if any threads back in the day wanting regen health in ES. Most every time its brought up, its shot down like it was a Gun thread. And it should be, because there's no reason to have regen health. It doesnt add anything to the game, except for ease.