Perhaps Akatosh/Alduin won't be the protagonist (in the limelight that is)

For example, the gods don't just interfere in every day life. They can't. So they send Avatars to do their bidding (I.E Pelenial Whitestrake, etc). So what if Akataosh sends an Avatar to Akavir and he leads the invasion?

Just a different way of thinking.

My 2 cents.

Not to be off topic, but I looked on Imperial Library, and saw the different gods they have in Skyrim, even the Nordic aspect of Talos, Lorkahn, etc. Chapels are gonna be interesting there

Elder Scrolls Lore Buffs, ASSEMBLE!

That is pretty sick.

Well, that's what is happening. The dragon form is their avatar...

Well Akatosh didn't destroy the world before because he/she had a pact with Alessia, since the amulet was destroyed there is no more pact. So Akatosh is now free to munch on the world.

Okay, so Akatosh comes with his avatar, and we destroy that. If Cecliff is right, then maybe we have to create something that will prevent him from coming again?

Maybe if we are nice enough for him, he decide's to go away. :hehe:

Well, his avatars would be the Dragons right? So yeah, could be the Ka Po Tun but I don't see it that way. We will find out soon!

I'm just hoping for a free will vs. fate storyline, with free will having the world not eaten and fate having the kalpa reset.

I wouldn't go that far, we know nothing except for a vague poem. Its yet to surpass Morrowind IMO. Once we have more info or play the game maybe, but until then...

The black brothers part is wrong, its


And now I see its fixed.

Not what I meant.

Dragons exist - there is just debate as to whether they are gods or not (a few escaped extinction, rumors have them hiding)

What i meant was, like a human avatar who can effect change. (Hence my reference of Pelenial)

I am hoping for multiple paths to side with either Alduin, or Mer, Men, etc.

Shouldn't we spoiler the whole Akatosh deal?

That might create a Dragon Break and a Warp in the West 2.0, which I don't want. I want definitive canon.

why is Alduin evil...because he wants to destroy the world? isn't that his job. Won't a new one just start?

Throwing it down here myself to prove that I came up with the same thing.

So it sounds like Akavir has nothing to do with it. I thought that crazy guy that turned himself into a dragon would factor in here.

Really? Morrowinds was not nearly as "You don't do this and we are totally screwed" as this. It isnt as "Awesome lore leads up to even more awesome lore" as this either.


"So it sounds like Akavir has nothing to do with it. I thought that crazy guy that turned himself into a dragon would factor in here."

Well, Tosh Raka: TOSH-RAKA could equal RAKA-TOSH get rid of the "R" and you have AKA-TOSH. Akatosh = Alduin. Tosh Raka = Alduin?

It will, but billions will die first. Generally that's something to be avoided. The Nordic combative temprament likely won't take it lying down because some old god says to die. Also as humans I think we're more likely to sympathize with the bilions of lives lost than the abstract philosophical concept being pushed by a cold, uncaring destroyer whose tummy is making the rumblies only planets can satisfy.

EDIT: In fact, it would be a stretch to call him evil. He is simply an abstract force that humans would rather not have occur. He is an event, a Thing beyond full comprehension. Rather than think of it in terms of black, grey and white, think blue and orange. Completely divorced from human moral cores.

Dragons with hats?

Well Akatosh himself seems to think the world would run forever. Or at least thats what I get from his line in http://www.imperial-library.info/content/seven-fights-aldudagga

From the work:
You stupid little #*$&%^, do you even know what would HAPPEN if that happened, my dying and being unable to eat and the kalpa left to run forever?

My money says that he doesn't want men to reach the goal that Lorkhan wants them to reach. As it says in this mass of text http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0hKcgk2nSEYJ:www.imperial-library.info/content/vehks-teaching+he+failed+so+that+they+scrolls+lorkhan&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us (Near the bottom).

From the work:
And this is the most-reached destination of all that embark upon this road. Why would Lorkhan and his (unwitting?) agents sabotage their experiments with the Tower? Why would he crumble that which he esteems?

Perhaps he failed so you might know how not to.

That say to me that Lorkhan is lighting the way. Akatosh would certainly have none of that.


I think that Dagon had to get rid of all his extra world bits (explained in the link first link above) before Akatosh could get his dinner. That, or the world only runs for so long. I have reading to do...


I'd say that those in the know would love you. Besides the Altmer that is. They'll probably kill you.


Yes.


I agree. They said that a sense of culture was going to be a big part of the game.

We don't know anything about this game except a vague poem and with whats been said, I don't find it as intriguing as the tribunal and their betrayal...yet.

Im fascinated by how much knowledge some of you guys have about the game. Its like watching Gods argue. Interesting stuff.

Wow i never thought of it like that before. Hmmmm Tosh Raka is the avatar of Akatosh...