I think it's fairly obvious that Alduin is the main villain from the song. And that's good, a really good plot IMHO; Akatosh, the deity humans thought was their friend and savior, now arrives to destroy them, and the entire world. It's not predictable at all, I doubt we could've predicted it without this song.

Ya now I see it I wonder if they make a CE edition if this tongue will be in it:) would be pretty neat or if they have it in game so we can make new hints out of ingame stuff like runes on the walls n such

Ok I didn't have time to read the other threads but how did you guys translate it? I was trying to decrypt the letters as stylized Morse code.

For those that have read the Aldushaggas, do you think this means Dagon is no longer cursed? I speculated in one of the older spec threads that the amulet of kings may have been the last piece of the old kalpa left. Hence why it never shows up in the elder scrolls themselves. Perhaps this is why Aka has decided to take up world eating again. He no longer has to worry about his belly bursting if he eats the world.

I was actually hard at work, but curiosity killed the cat, So I saw the post on pg. 1 :sadvaultboy: At least I took part in it instead of going straight to spoilers xD I even had a pen and paper going on and reading the translation key I printed out while looking at my computer screen

Agreed, although I have to wonder, will playing a mer affect the game? I mean, to them Akatosh is the good guy and Lorkhan is the bad guy. D:

Does anyone have a good idea of who produced this language? Akatosh is a dragon, but I take that to be more that this is the form that Akatosh takes rather than "akatosh is of a race of dragons". A language implies a civilization and a culture - who are the other dragons that communicated using this? Are we assuming it is the extinct race of Akaviri dragons? Or is there some other ancient population of dragons that could have produced this language, and the prophecy of the Dragonborn?

Also, maybe someone has pointed this out, or maybe it is just obvious - but the characters are obviously those that a dragon would make with its claws - scratch marks and dots/holes in stone. Reminds me of the Dinosaur language in the Dinotopia books.

Just finished it. Looks like mine's 100% according to the OP.

That was actually really cool that they did that. Did anybody listen to the song yet and match up the first paragraph in dragon tongue to the lyrics? It's pretty cool.

Wait, so is Alduin and Akatosh the same?

Since the poem basically says:

• When brothers wage war come unfurled
  
• Alduin bane of kings
  
• Ancient shadow unbound
  
• With a hunger to swallow the world

It's very clearly telling us that when there is civil war, Alduin, the bane of kings, will arise to swallow the world. I still don't see how that was predictable, except that this story, being a prophecy, should also have been included in the scrolls somewhere.

And I don't understand why you're disappointed by it--I really like the idea of the creator/destroyer who doesn't take all to kindly to man gone awry and wants to start over.

Alduin is the Nordic name for Akatosh, yeah.

Hooray! I Translated it too! That was a lot of fun! Do we have to put everything in spoiler tags now?!?!

There are no dragons in Akavir IIRC, the only one that is mentioned is the 'Tiger-Dragon'. Aren't dragons the final form of the gods from generations of reproduction before they because the first people on Nirn?

I don't know if it has been asked because my brain is too fuzzy and lazy right now to look back, but if it has just let me know:

If it is Alduin (Spelling? xD) the Nordic Aspect of Akatosh, is it Akatosh himself or Just a similarity or what? Lore buffs, teach me please! :bowdown:

Glad I translated it myself. Wasn't going to bother but if feel I achieved at least one thing today now.

Same, I felt good actually getting lines translated without cheating :thumbsup:

I'm pretty sure that it's just the Nordic was of saying Akatosh.

I think there were dragons on Akavir, but the tiger people killed them all, and then one of them became a tiger-dragon?

If dragons are the original form of the gods, then are they the same as the akaviri dragons or totally distinct? As in, they both look like dragons but one is a race like any other, and one is a type of god?

I'm a little dismayed that it seems to be the classic "evil dragons" and "chosen one" thing.

I hope the developers put a fresh spin on it and make it something uniquely TESish.

I'm sure the basic concept at least has been around a lot longer than games have. And if these verses are anything to go by I'd favour Bethesda's interpretation of it, personally.

Looking at the less obvious implications, I'd guess that those doing the praying aren't taking Dovahkiin's presence for granted, and that his existence and characteristics are just as questionable, mysterious or mythic as the dragons', other than the fearsome power they seem sure he has.

If Alduin has been unshackled by the end of the Septim line, and plays the role either of the main villain (for want of a better word) or an over-arching cause of the game's conflict, perhaps the other divines represent more of a grey area? What role would the Daedra play in such a storyline? Mortal-divine conflict and mortal-mortal conflict seems assured, but I wonder about divine-divine conflict.

Yes but to the nords Alduin is something to be feared because he will be the one to destroy the world. The Nords have a differant beleif than the rest of them. The imperials think of Akatosh as a great dude who leads the Nine. Nords are right.

...Are you serious? This is Man trying to overcome his metaphysical destiny by defeating the creator-destroyer God. Its hardly "evil dragons" and plenty "TESish."

Its a very ancient and pervasive mythological theme, not a cliche.

Taking hours translating it but not posting it feels like a waste so:

Nope, I'm fairly sure that the tiger-dragon's killed all of the snake people in Akavir (who are classed as men) and they said that they would turn to Tamriel once they killed them all. The dragons who are god descendants are the original dragons.

Sooo... How late am I?