[Lucky Girl]

Buy to play, Pay to play, Pay to win, all terms that can immediately be recognized by everyone in the gaming community. I remember ESO had a dark age where it was as if people disregarded the idea and the only thing that defibed the game from its mainstream non-existence, were the beta's, which is, as of the battlefield series, the single most powerful marketing ploy of all time.

But back to the drawing board, what makes so many people turn away and why?

Lets talk about the subscription model

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If you're like me, when you play'ed Oblivion, Skyrim, or even an older game in the series, you treated the game as an escape from the typical atmosphere of either life or other games, or perhaps you just wanted a more realistic and free experience you could just hop onto whenever you wanted to and just say **** you to whatever you were playing during that time I.E. First person shooters, World of Warcraft, any MOBA, an RTS, ect.

And another thing if you would realize if you are somewhat like me, is that you never really spent more than 30 hours at a time in the world of TES. They were all fantastic games, but i dont know anyone who would play them for any hyper-extended period of time, but it NEEDED to be in their game library, it needed to be there if they ever lost internet connection, wanted a more realistic *anything goes* experience. I'd do about 40 or so quests, explore a good fraction of the map, and then call it a game.

I cant do that with TESO

Im paying for my time in TESO, so i'll feel compelled to play the living code out of it until i'm speaking in token accent outside of the game. Which is really going to kill the game long term for me "if i get it". I know everyone here hates to be told these types of things about the game, as they would be considered negative. I just wish this game could give me the same mentality as other TES games, call me casual, but its just the only way i ever found any TES fun, is that it was just a temporary vacation.

I hope the sub doesn't last forever, but it probably will

[roxxii lenaghan]

This is a Massively Multiplyplayer Online Game set in the TES world not a single player game so for the game to evolve and expand it needs dedicated developers to do the work to make that happen. That being said they also need to get paid to do that so if Zenimax lives up to what they are saying 4-6 week updates and customer service that is top notch then the sub fee is warranted. Tes VI will be out some time.

[Laurenn Doylee]

30 hours?

I'm at about 500+ hours in Oblivion & 800+ hours in Skyrim!

I wish Steam would stop showing me how long I play stuff for which is why I'd NEVER play an MMO through it. I'd hate to see how much time I logged in DDO.

Edit: just to stay on topic, I'm in favour of the sub.

[Khamaji Taylor]

$15 a month is chump change, I will play casually and not care about the cost at all.

[meghan lock]

So your saying you spent only 30 hours in skyrim?. If so I don't think many are like you. Not as many as others but I have a few hundred hours in skyrim and am far from done.

But I guess you sound like your not really interested so why even bother.

[Melissa De Thomasis]

$15 really isn't that much. Chances are, you already spend at least that much a month already for entertainment, and limited entertainment at that, unlike ESO.

Sub will last as long as ZOS provides a quality game and they live up to most everything they've said.

[Lyndsey Bird]

Um.

You are comparing single stand alone games to an MMO?

You probably paid $49.99 or whatever for each one. That would be the equivalent of 3 months playtime.

And you played 40 hours?

I would suggest buying the digital standard pack then. You can play with the first month included free, put the game down, and go on your merry way.

"i'll feel compelled to play the living code out of it"

So, for $15 you will be compelled to spend an obscene number of hours playing a game, and your desire is to have them completely remove their financing structure so you won't feel "compelled?"

15 bucks is a case of beer, bro. Or one movie ticket.

[lilmissparty]

Let's not and say we didn't.